Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

Even if they removed the leave option (which they would never do), people would just log off or go afk till you kicked them if they didnt like the dungeon

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they could add an afk reason toggle which adds the same punishment during a kick. but of course that depends on people not lying.

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Originally Posted by savageink

they could add an afk reason toggle which adds the same punishment during a kick. but of course that depends on people not lying.

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It'll never happen. It's just not realistic to even consider.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

It'll never happen. It's just not realistic to even consider.

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lol! most of this stuff will never happen. doesn't mean it can't be considered.

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Originally Posted by savageink

lol! most of this stuff will never happen. doesn't mean it can't be considered.

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Putting the power to not only kick players from a group, but to also inflict the penalty on them in the hands of players is a non-starter. It's not worth considering or suggesting because it would never happen. I often /facepalm when I see people make suggestions like "scrap <system I don't like> and rebuild it like <rants on with overly complex system>". If someone is going to make a suggestion for something in an MMO, they need keep it within the realm of things the devs would reasonably consider. Otherwise they're just making noise.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

Putting the power to not only kick players from a group, but to also inflict the penalty on them in the hands of players is a non-starter. It's not worth considering or suggesting because it would never happen. I often /facepalm when I see people make suggestions like "scrap <system I don't like> and rebuild it like <rants on with overly complex system>". If someone is going to make a suggestion for something in an MMO, they need keep it within the realm of things the devs would reasonably consider. Otherwise they're just making noise.

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nice to know that your opinion of what is worthwhile is exactly the same as the devs. I'll be sure to run everything past you in the future.

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Originally Posted by savageink

nice to know that your opinion of what is worthwhile is exactly the same as the devs. I'll be sure to run everything past you in the future.

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I can't claim that my opinion is the same as the devs. I can only go by two decades of experience both playing games and helping develop some. There are certain things that are just not realistic to ask for in an MMO. Like asking for a button that gives you enough gil to hit the cap. Or a button that auto demolishes another player's home so you can take it. Asking for the devs to give players the power to inflict the dungeon penalty on others is equally unrealistic.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I can't claim that my opinion is the same as the devs. I can only go by two decades of experience both playing games and helping develop some. There are certain things that are just not realistic to ask for in an MMO. Like asking for a button that gives you enough gil to hit the cap. Or a button that auto demolishes another player's home so you can take it. Asking for the devs to give players the power to inflict the dungeon penalty on others is equally unrealistic.

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Yawn! You're seriously going to go all in on the BS? The first two are fake ridiculous examples. Players are given options to give penalties to other players all the time. What do you think a kick is? Or reporting for RMT? To not put it in the "realistic" ballpark, just makes me think you are one of the AFKers trying to protect yourself. And don't think that telling me you played video games for 20 years impresses me. I have shoes older then that.

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Originally Posted by savageink

Yawn! You're seriously going to go all in on the BS? The first two are fake ridiculous examples. Players are given options to give penalties to other players all the time. What do you think a kick is? Or reporting for RMT? To not put it in the "realistic" ballpark, just makes me think you are one of the AFKers trying to protect yourself. And don't think that telling me you played video games for 20 years impresses me. I have shoes older then that.

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You are free to think what you like.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

You are free to think what you like.

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That's all I was asking for in the first place.

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Originally Posted by savageink

That's all I was asking for in the first place.

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You're free to have an opinion and he's free to tell you what he thinks of your opinion. Thats pretty much the underlying reality of debate.