Egi Glamour is coming out for 3.5....

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Originally Posted by Rennies

It's assumed that when Egi Glamours are spoken about, most people want Fairy Glamours too. It's just easier to refer to the system as a whole as Egi Glamours.

And the Eos/Selene models are both of much higher quality than the Egis to be completely honest with you.

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yeah they actually look like fairies, not some dilapidated light elemental or wisp

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Originally Posted by Claymore65

Admittedly, rather than new Egis I'd almost rather see some primals just incorporated into various attacks, in addition to the current egis. For example, perhaps "Painflare" becomes "Ramuh's Wrath", and the attack summons a Ramuh Egi which blasts them with lightning or whatever. Maybe a new DoT (or one of the older ones) can be converted into "Shiva's Revenge" with some new ice effects and a mini-shiva. That way Summoners don't require new pets all the time (which might be difficult to differentiate mechanically) but still "gain summons" with their new skills.

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Nice option. If they find it that hard to balance summons, even though they manage to balance jobs. Just forget the glamour thing and add summons as cast spells the way you imply. And just have the summon out in towns for glamour purposes, no battle tie ins to the companion dot nuggets.

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Originally Posted by Tiva

Every time the topic of egi glamour comes up, I can't help but feel you guys are leaving something out.

I dont think it's really fair to give a glamour system for egis to summoners and exclude scholars from that system. I'd wager there's as many scholars that dont like thier pet looks as summoners. If summoners get new pet skins, I don't think scholars should be left out. After all, we are all arcanists.

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This is unfortunately the same logic that some players are now using to demand that egi-glamours should be postponed until every job gets its own gimmick system though.

Let's please not lose sight of why the egi-glamours are happening. SMNs were promised further pets, as is standard for Summoners in the FF franchise, and then had them cut. A Summoner with only three summons isn't really a Summoner by series standards, and Yoshi agreed, so he promised the egi-glamour system as a compromise to make up for the missing pets. Whilst I have no doubts that the system could, and likely will be, expanded to encompass SCH pets as well, this isn't just an extra thing for SMNs because the devs were feeling nice; it's their way of making up for cutting planned SMN pets.

To the people saying this doesn't really matter..well, we were told in 3.0 we would be getting new pets or rather to expect them by the producer in many, many interviews and live letters. So people had thought more pets would mean improving the job in the sense that it can finally feel like a PET CLASS instead of a dot mage. Lots of people were excited and hopeful.

Then in the very last interviews where they were showing off new job abilities..they surprised us by telling us sorry, no new pets lol but instead we will get glamour egi! Yay...

Well it is nearly time for the next expansion and we don't even have that. The only reason I bought HW was because they were saying how we were going to get new pets and abilities. So yea this is a pretty big let down.

I understand sch feel dissed by this. Personally I would rather SCH get glamours over SMN. I want actual huge epic summons, it's what they are iconic for. If they can't bring more summons in the current system. Then axe their current implementation to at least let them cast summons. Casting Deathflare from my hands with no avatar doing that makes it feel more like black mage.

Regarding the announce, do we know if the coulors will be "Egi bound" ?
Like green Carby only for Garuda, red for Ifrit and yellow for Titan or will it be possible for us to have a Garuda/Red Carby ?

Someone talked about this in the french forums and it seems to me to be a relevant question ^^"

Am I the only one who is not impressed with this feature at least on this stage? We wanted Egi glamours to not have our summons look like chibi pokemons and yet we get chibi pokemon glamours. At least the system will be implemented so in the future we can have better skins for egis.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Regarding the announce, do we know if the coulors will be "Egi bound" ?
Like green Carby only for Garuda, red for Ifrit and yellow for Titan or will it be possible for us to have a Garuda/Red Carby ?

Someone talked about this in the french forums and it seems to me to be a relevant question ^^"

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I was wondering about this too. But, the info says you enter a text command so it's entirely possible you can freely choose which one your egi looks like. I'm really hoping it's free choice, because I would love Garuda to take on the appearance of the Ruby carbuncle.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

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In its current incarnation? Impressed isn't the word I would use. I'll be impressed once they put in the time to give it a proper GUI. Having said that, I'm very happy that they are giving us the work-in-progress version to use until it's a proper feature. I'd much rather have access to this text-based version for a while than not having anything until it's all polished.

In regards to the selection of skins, if Reddit and the forums are to be believed, a HUGE number of people really wanted the ability to use Carbuncles on SMN (and SCH), because they're so cute. Holy crap huge. Anyway, they were also definitely the easiest thing to implement for the first iteration of the system. The trick is going to be animations, because if the skins aren't locked to a specific Egi, they have to animate the glamour for everything that all 3 pets can do (discounting SCH summons, even).

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Originally Posted by Renryuu

New summons would be better except that SE has already made it clear they will never give us new summons cause they don't feel like having to balance them with the other pets. The glamour system was the next best thing, but apparently even that is not worth doing. Smn will be forever doomed to be a glorified Green Mage with Happy Meal toys as pets.

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lol i like how you put it, and do agree. They did go the lazy route for sure and try to "balance" or "fix" the job by simply buffing abilities which is not at all the solution to the overall problem