Please hire GM Wardens that can suspend and ban bots

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Originally Posted by Vesper

Actually is is SE's fault 100%. They creating a cumbersome reporting system that no one wants to use. Nearly every other MMO lets you direct report through game, I am not going to a separate website to report people I think are cheating, its not worth my time and for those people who play full screen in a massive hassle.

Also claiming someone is a bot just because they didn't reply to your message is lame. There are plenty of reasons why that person made not have responded, not the least of which is the horrible system for trying to type/craft/gather at the same time. Remove the status bar and just let us craft and afk for a sec mid craft without the lame unneeded timer bar and you will see a large increase in chatter. But then again, I will likely still watch movies/tv when I am crafting and gathering, just because I enjoy doing so. This is a typical craft session for me and many other players. When I am crafting I want to be left alone to relax, when I want to interact with all the players ingame I join a DOW/M group.

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You make a good point about in-game reporting system.

However, I'm not sure why you went on a tirade about the botting witch hunt. I'm not in those people's camp and I certainly don't advocate crying foul every time a person sees anyone synthing.

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Originally Posted by Baxter

Completely agree. Do we really want to go on this witch hunt? Grinding crafting is monotonous as is. Should I really have to reply to people to prove that I am not a bot when all I want is my level?

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It's true, I've seen massive amounts of people (myself included) being accused of botting because they're spamming standard... It's a bit ridicolous tbh.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Ahahah are you serious there ? There is no way to determine if someone is botting or not that way. Moreover it is quite simple to add a random delay to a bot so actions aren't always done with the same timming.

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It is possible. Thay can see the acions performed by players. Maybe it's not timing, but something else. We don't know the programming.

WoW has built-in anti-cheating technology. You cannot say that it's not possible for Square Enix to detect botting.

I am merely suggesting that the STF take a more active role in-game.

I am really concerned about DoW and DoM botting. For crafting and gathering, they should take a more active role, not the players. If we can identify them, then they should be able to as well.

You're are right though, it's not timming.

WoW scan your memory/system, SE doesn't. Here is the big difference. SE can only use data they have on their side and nothing else.

We all would like the STF to take actions against bots/cheaters. But unless SE start to have a real anti-cheat policy, this won't happen. The STF didn't prevent cheating on XI. Hell you could even speedhack freely with little to no chance to get jailed. You could even poshack easily, and again with almost no risk of getting banned...

Not gonna talk about fishbotting, claim botting, you name it. Never seen a MMO where everyone could simply do what they wanted... The only thing SE did ok was tracing back RMTs and remove gil from the economy.

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Originally Posted by Jhanaka

Hello everyone!

We always encourage you to submit any suspicious players to either the GM team or to the Special Task Force via the form located at the Support Center Website. If you use the /helpdesk system, the GMs will submit the names of suspected players for you to the Special Task Force so you don’t have to interrupt your game play; the message we send to you is to keep us from disrupting you while you play and also to inform you of the process to submit reports directly to the Task Force, should you wish to outside of game.

There have been some really good suggestions on how we can help improve our GM service and we enjoy reading these types of threads as they are very helpful in understanding what our players are looking for.

Thanks!

-Senior Game Master Jhanaka

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Hello! Thanks for the assurance.

One more thing though, I wonder if Special Task Force report form can have another category to select when we report? So far I've been using "Witnessed RMT activities" or something like that, but that's not accurate type. If there's a choice that says "Reporting suspicious characters or behaviors" it would be great. Just so it will make it easier for us to decide which category to file the report for, and make it easier for Special Task Force to sort out the report by types more accurately.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

WoW scan your memory/system, SE doesn't. Here is the big difference. SE can only use data they have on their side and nothing else.

We all would like the STF to take actions against bots/cheaters. But unless SE start to have a real anti-cheat policy, this won't happen. The STF didn't prevent cheating on XI. Hell you could even speedhack freely with little to no chance to get jailed. You could even poshack easily, and again with almost no risk of getting banned...

Not gonna talk about fishbotting, claim botting, you name it. Never seen a MMO where everyone could simply do what they wanted... The only thing SE did ok was tracing back RMTs and remove gil from the economy.

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I am suggesting that they change. There is nothing preventing them from being able to scan your PC.

You cannot argue that because it was that way in the past that it has to be that way in the future.

You cannot defend their current practice as being sufficient and acceptable.

You should open your mind and accept that they are listening to suggestions.

They never had forums for FFXI. Does that mean that they will never have forums for FFXIV?

That's just not a priority now, SE don't care and don't want to invest money in that for now... After 2.0 gets here why now, but now? No point really. Especially if the whole game engine will be remade etc.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

That's just not a priority now, SE don't care and don't want to invest money in that for now... After 2.0 gets here why now, but now? No point really. Especially if the whole game engine will be remade etc.

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Your speaking from authority but have no standing. If they didn't care, then why do they have forums that moderators reply to (See above) and have Youtube.com Producer chat sessions?

Another fallacy.

Do you ever respect anyone's opinion? Please stop trolling threads. It's not helpful.

If you're not part of the solution, don't be a part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Fieros

Well, the one I saw had no bait/lure equipped and repeatedly was casting and putting away his rod for the 5 minutes I watched.

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Maybe he didn't know how to fish...a lot of newbs still don't. LOL.

The person Fieros mention was a high level fisher. Moreover, it usually don't take me more than like 10 casts, which would be what? 2 mins? to realize I had no bait.

But still, it seems easy to spot a bot, yet so hard to prove one.