Suggestion: 99 totems = 1 lanner whistle

remember people. nobody is sayin to remove the bird as a normal drop. just adding alternate means of gettin it it ur RNG and/or rolls realy suck.

its not like everyone had to run ravana 130 times to get hive weapons for every job

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

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So, you have an issue with doing it 100 times and say it's only fun for 20 runs, yet you're here advocating for a reward after 99 runs? Your argument doesn't make much sense :/

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

No one is forcing me to do anything else in the game either.
I'm paying for a subscription to have fun
I don't think a single person out there thinks doing something identical 100+ times is fun
In fact, many people would refuse to get paid to do something as repetitive as primal fights

They are fun when they are a challenge
And can be fun 10, 20, maybe even 30 times

but 100+ times is a waste of anyone's time

And Yes, no one is forcing anyone to do it
But no one is forcing people to stay subbed either
And I know a lot of people quit because of the repetition (just visit gamefaqs boards once in a while)

So it's effect is probably more negative than positive.

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Im confused. You say you pay to have fun, you also say that you are no longer having fun farming for them....so why continue?

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Originally Posted by ErzaScar

remember people. nobody is sayin to remove the bird as a normal drop. just adding alternate means of gettin it it ur RNG and/or rolls realy suck.

its not like everyone had to run ravana 130 times to get hive weapons for every job

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This exactly.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

Could say that about anything in the game.
I'd understand if it was a rare drop from something dynamic like pvp
But it's a primal. Every fight is a repetitive joke. No strategy is needed. You just repeat the exact same thing 100s of times.

If someone wants a mount, they may have to repeat identical content 100s of time to get it.

Saying "no one's forcing you to do it" is just an excuse for bad game design.

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rare item drops are a good game design not a bad one and I would not call birds even rare since they seem to have about 10% drop rate, if you want more variety do the fight in DF onece in a while or do it with minimum item level, or just cap your lore with it, there really no reason to do expert roulette ever again if you play more than a few hours every week.

I think that even if SE decided to make it possible to trade totems, it wouldn't definitely be just 99 of them. From my experience I know that you can easily farm this much in less than a day (if you find a decent group), so everyone could just get it... even freshies who just reached lvl 60. Trading two full stacks would make more sense as it should require some decent grind. If you think about this, even the new pvp mount requires you to win 200 feast matches.

I'm so hoping the tokens get used eventually for trading for mounts. And no I don't care/mind if someone can grind it in 1 day vs someone working on it for half a year with 1 run a day or something. Different people have different time to play. It gives all a defined set goal to aim for and not just /pray to rng

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Originally Posted by Rebellius555

I think that even if SE decided to make it possible to trade totems, it wouldn't definitely be just 99 of them. From my experience I know that you can easily farm this much in less than a day (if you find a decent group), so everyone could just get it... even freshies who just reached lvl 60. Trading two full stacks would make more sense as it should require some decent grind. If you think about this, even the new pvp mount requires you to win 200 feast matches.

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Even if it's not 99, and more like 200 of the totems.. I don't care. As long as you can turn them in for the mount. Because after doing bis ex (currently at 215 runs and totems) and still being screwed over by RNG.. it's starting to get repetitive.

As much as I really want this, being at nearly 2 stacks of totems and no bird, the reality is we have a better chance of getting SMN's egi glamours by patch 3.25-3.3 before they decide to turn a large amount of tokens into a free mount.

In all honesty, we all know they'll simply increase the drop rate by like 5 or 10% (I don't remember their initial increased drop rates on ponies making a huge difference) in another patch or two, before the rate increase is even noticeable, which comes 3 or 4 patches later, because we already know how reluctant the devs are to deviating from their "systems."

Heck, their "solution" to making the wind-up Echidna and coffin lid seem less uncommonly rare is to slap the Echidna card in the 3rd chest that now drops every run. Except now the 3rd chest usually just has the card anyway...

putting mounts and minions on 0.2% rng drops sucks , we all agree , the question here is WHY? , rpgs need rng for drops , otherwise isnt fun ......but the guy with 200+ runs for sure isnt having any fun....if its easy and every1 has it , they arent rare anymore.......or u dont feel "special" , look around every lucky player is running around with 1 , they werent special not even on release day.

i dont care, i would love to have 1? yeah thordan one looks cool , but i wont farm it because i dont want to go insane .... or frustrated , or wanting to quit i game i enjoy because SE wanted to introduce mounts AGAIN with horrible drop rates...........because, who knows ? :S