Yoshida mentioned something in his convo (after visting event room) ...

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Originally Posted by Jacost

Uses both TP and MP, alternating between melee and magic while the other recharges.

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I'd rather one combo into the other. That's how you make both sides of the hybrid mesh into each other. I'll point to WoW 3.0's Ret paladins if you need a point of reference.

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En-spells are stances; one buffs melee damage and regens MP, the other buffs magic and regens TP (and swaps STR with INT and skillspeed with spellspeed).

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I'll vote no on this because stance dancing is already enough of a pain on other jobs. Now enchants as a result of other actions would be interesting (and easier to manage), specially if you have a core skill that changes depending on what enchant is active.

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Has one or two Clemency-like heals, not anything that can replace a real healer but useful utility.

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100% agree. Funny thing is that something like Clemency is what I'd expect to see on RDM (minus the "heals you when used on someone else" bit).

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Has Refresh. Because.

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No. Just no.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

I don't get why people want Red Mage it's basically a hybrid that uses already existing magic categories (black/white) and some melee skills similar to the gladiator. Honestly if Red Mage is introduced they will butcher the job like they did with summoner.

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My sig. Read it.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

rdm > healer (puts fire shield on)

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Bite. Your. Tongue.

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This all said, I'll admit I'm expecting to be disappointed with what they choose for RDM. This way if they do get the job right I'll be pleasantly surprised and sing their praises until the day I die. As long as it's not this shit again, we should be fine. Maybe...

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Some people on Reddit were proposing the idea of blue mage as a tank, since their shtick is getting hit by things to learn from them.

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that's silly logic - everyone gets hit by stuff, when solo, raid-wide attacks - they can just stick around for placed AOEs, and get hit by boss' random-person-attacks.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Viera were considered for Heavensward, but ended up cut because they decided that they looked too much like humans.

That was back when au ra were a lot more draconic/demonic.

http://i.imgur.com/eDNCL9D.jpg

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unlike every other race....

I want dancer so hard ;-;

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Crazy as it sounds I'd love to see a second Lancer-type class based on the "Lancer legions of Ala Mhigo"

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How about Spartan, a tank using a spear/shield combo?

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Viera were considered for Heavensward, but ended up cut because they decided that they looked too much like humans.

That was back when au ra were a lot more draconic/demonic.

http://i.imgur.com/eDNCL9D.jpg

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Which is annoying because aura ended up too much like humans in the end.

I keep seeing the female version of aura though. Does anyone have the male version?

Red mage reminds me of millia from ToX. I hope they use her as the template.

Underground? World of Darkness? And not the raid. More like the one in Ff4

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Originally Posted by Riardon

Although some people will say this design is better I would have to disagree. Here AuRa look like mobs out of a dungeon and nothing more. They simply wouldn't fit as a playable race like that.

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Other mmo's have no issue with this at all.
I mean in wow you got a race that are literally zombies.

I have two Red mage gameplay ideas:

A combo of weapon skill and magic.
Basically RDM will have weapon skill and magic, but they'll be used in a combo.

The magic spell default state has a short cast time, but if used in the combo it becomes insta cast.

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WS > MS > WS > MS

The EN- spells should be oGCD and can be used either like life thrust which buffs one hit or like BoTD which has an upkeep.

My other idea is using a combo point system similar to rogues in WoW.
You basically use WS combo to rack up combo points to use a MS finisher.
The potency and cast time will differ depending on the amount of combo point you currently have

I really could care less about Samurai, lol
But Blue and Red Mage yes please
Still secretly wish it would of been Dancer

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Other mmo's have no issue with this at all.
I mean in wow you got a race that are literally zombies.

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WoW is unusual. The original set up was basically normal races (Humans/Elves/Dwarves/Gnomes) vs monsters (Orcs/Trolls/Minotaurs/Undead). Most other MMOs tend to be closer to how FFXIV does it.

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Originally Posted by Jacost

The only way I see Red Mage working while staying true to it's roots is:

• DPS, melee/caster hybrid.
• Uses both TP and MP, alternating between melee and magic while the other recharges.
• En-spells are stances; one buffs melee damage and regens MP, the other buffs magic and regens TP (and swaps STR with INT and skillspeed with spellspeed).
• Has one or two Clemency-like heals, not anything that can replace a real healer but useful utility.
• Has Refresh. Because.

As for Blue Mage... there is a precedent of them needing to be hit with attacks to learn them, so one could see a tank that builds up stacks upon taking (or blocking/parrying) hits that can then be spent on Blue Magic skills.

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There's already a template for RDM: DRK OT. A BW skill that will burn through TP,then a stance change which swaps STR for INT to burn through MP, vice versa