Parsers make you stupid

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Ah, I see not only are you the type of person who shouts HELP GM IM BEING HARASSED when someone tells you that you need to step your DPS up, you're also the kind of person who doesn't raid (Otherwise you would know that minimum ilvl requirements are a thing), and you have selective reading.

Ok. No point in continuing this then.

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You're so proving my point about the community now being about to handle parsers.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

You're so proving my point about the community now being about to handle parsers.

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Not really no, all that's being proven is you cant take any type of criticism at all from others regarding anything you do, without running off to report them for harassment.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

There's a reason why that person isn't doing better dps. Bad gear. Not paying attention. Doesn't know mechanics. It's not an uncaused quantum fluctuation. There's a reason for it. If you can't offer up a solution then you're even more useless then the person doing poor dps.

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There is a solution, but it's on the person to ask. Go look on the forums. Most the topics about "how do I get better" or "I need help" are full of people being helpful and offering advice. But on the other hand you have topics of "class X is bad, it needs a buff" when in reality it doesnt, the op gets told its a learn to play issue, which it usually is.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

Absolutely. Saying "you needed to step your game up" is beyond useless and does nothing to actually solve the problem that I consider it harassment. Offer some real constructive advice (ie mechanics, rotations, etc) or gtfo.

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Wait so people should know how to play your class as well as their own? No, thats not how it works. Do some research, practice on target dummies and eat some food.

I personally will call people out if theyre terrible.

Its not correct if the only people that can take flak are tanks and healers because their fails are the most visible.

But if I'm out dpsing your i185 Monk on my i161 Summoner on a single target fight or anything for that matter, there is something very very wrong.

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Originally Posted by averageamn

Instead of using a one-liner with an era 2000 emoticon, could you expand?

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You missed the point. He was "underperforming", and yet the dungeon was cleared in 16 minutes. Parsers make people focus on a number, not clearing content.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Not really no, all that's being proven is you cant take any type of criticism at all from others regarding anything you do, without running off to report them for harassment.

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I've never once reported anyone for harassment. Never had a need to.

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Originally Posted by Badkarma

Wait so people should know how to play your class as well as their own? No, thats not how it works. Do some research, practice on target dummies and eat some food.

I personally will call people out if theyre terrible.

Its not correct if the only people that can take flak are tanks and healers because their fails are the most visible.

But if I'm out dpsing your i185 Monk on my i161 Summoner on a single target fight or anything for that matter, there is something very very wrong.

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Of course not. Just don't be an ass if someone doesn't know how to play their class as well as you know how to play yours.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

Of course not. Just don't be an ass if someone doesn't know how to play their class as well as you know how to play yours.

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I expect people to know how to play their class to a competent level.

I expect people to have a basic knowledge of fights in raids and trials.

I do not expect people to be a member of Elysium or Lucrezia in disguise.

But when people mistake a cry for competence as the shunnings of an elitist, they get mad.

I'll be quoting myself, because I'm lazy, but I'd like to remind everyone about this neat tidbit about parsing:

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Originally Posted by Waliel

There's more to parsing than just DPS. We did our first real venture into T13 this thursday and kept wondering why is our WHM randomly dying on Megaflare stacks. Checking out our trusty parser, it turned out she was hit twice by Megaflare for 5k+. We adjusted by telling everyone to spread out a little more and never had the issue again.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I'll be quoting myself, because I'm lazy, but I'd like to remind everyone about this neat tidbit about parsing:

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I'm pretty sure your WHM's battle log could have revealed that information as well, no parser required.