With the extremely tight DPS checks MCH/BRD are being discluded from Savage groups

I think it's 'excluded' :D

Well as a main Bard since 2.0 i must say... there are many many BAD Bards out there..

Just a few days ago we had an 2nd Bard in our static and he did 500 dps.. lolz
And the Bard that was in my static before me sucked as well.

I dont understand how people can just do 500 dps with 180 Gear..
Iam 185 now and my ~ DPS is arround 900. Deppends on the fight mostly.

And Mechas are just hated by this community it seems..

The bard in our static group yesterday in savage pulled his weight just fine. Dunno what you are talking about OP.

How funny op stopped posting here. Alexander savage clearing with both of these classes without problem. All op did was admit he cant pull 1k deeps.

Gotta admit, I've seen an A1S clear with a Bard in it.

Sorry man, your arguments aren't holding water this time.

What tight DPS checks ?


Also, our MCH who was above 1k pretty much the entire fight(Opressor) would like to have a word with you.

Dropped Faust with a drk, sat and mch on party so.........

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Originally Posted by Zeke_Anderson

Dropped Faust with a drk, sat and mch on party so.........

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Has anyone actually cleared Oppressor with an AST, though? I'm legit curious about this. Last I checked all our server's clears were with WHM/SCH only.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Has anyone actually cleared Oppressor with an AST, though? I'm legit curious about this. Last I checked all our server's clears were with WHM/SCH only.

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I don't believe Opressor can be cleared with an AST especially with current gear. I would love to be proven wrong.

I think people are confusing "It's possible to clear this" with "Groups are excluding bards because it's a tough dps check and they bring sub-par dps". I'm sure all of your statics can easily do it with 4 bards no problem at all, but the OP's concern is justified. After watching the groups for a few hours last night I don't think it's as widespread as he was afraid it would be. Over the course of the night I only saw 3 groups doing A1 with "no brd/mch" As gear gets better those will probably pass as well, it'll be interesting to see what kind of dps check later turns bring though.