MSQ req for DK ?????

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Originally Posted by Zordrage

2 i LOVE tanking ( Glad is boooring as hell and i have a PASSIONATE HATE againts axes its bassicaly immersion breaking for me )

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Everything is pretty boring at level 27, especially for veteran gamers. DRK probably will be too.

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3 i like the story BUT i could do the story and UNLOCK the new expansion zones even if they would allow us to play DK ( the difference ? i would enjoy the game WAAY more )

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Unfortunately, that's not how SE has chosen to implement the new classes. You'll need to finish the main story quest up through the current patch (2.55) in order to gain access to Ishgard and everything that goes with it.

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Originally Posted by Zordrage

also yes at this level All i do is spam riotblade and flash thats ALL i need to do and its getting seriously boring im doing this since i got the ability loooool
it does the most dmg atm and i don't lose aggro ever and i dont even use savage strike because there is no point in it atm.

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You should have Rage of Halone already, so you'd best get used to using Savage Blade. As a tank, you want to look for the skills that have "Increased Enmity" listed as an Additional Effect and prioritize the use of those skills. There's no reason for you to spam Riot Blade. The only real time you use that is in mass pulls if you need to recover mana so that you can continue to spam Flash. You won't be needing to do any of that until probably Dzemael Darkhold if you do first room pulls for experience.

You don't need to spam riot blade. you could level any one of the other classes.

FTR, I leveled this BRD to 50 almost exclusively on MSQ.


I had two blocks in 30s where I needed to finish a level to progress, and one in early 40s. Final one was 48-49 so I could do Operation Archon.


Leveling is hard though apparently?

As it's been mentioned, this is after all a Final Fantasy which is typically pretty story driven.

I really hated in FF1 when I had to get the rat tail in order to upgrade my classes cause I had to do a bunch of story up til then.
I really hated in FF3 and FF5 when I had to do the main story to unlock more advanced jobs.
I really hated in FF11 when I had to take one of the 6 starter classes to level 30 before I could unlock any of the advanced jobs. (/sarcasm)

While we're on the FF11 boat, can people stop using that as an example. Yes, you could get jobs and access expansion content without completing the previous expansion. However, you still needed to be level 30 on a base job to get an advanced job, a certain rank in your city to gain access, or a high enough level to clear the fights that locked the content (Promyvions). In FFXI, the simple act of leveling to 30 to accomplish any of these was an order of magnitude more grueling and time consuming than finishing the MSQ in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Thats not true. Also new players will get everything of the expansion. But not instant.

And don't forget: Its an expansion of an already existing game. Its not a new game.

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Indeed, it is in the nature of an expansion and progression of an existing game and story.

ARR has to continue beyond the start of HW since there may be players who do not buy the expansion yet and still sub to ARR. Because of that, the availability of the new jobs requires access to the expansion areas, since those new jobs are part of the expansion, and they are therefore unavailable to players who only have access to the ARR areas.

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Originally Posted by Dement

While we're on the FF11 boat, can people stop using that as an example. Yes, you could get jobs and access expansion content without completing the previous expansion. However, you still needed to be level 30 on a base job to get an advanced job, a certain rank in your city to gain access, or a high enough level to clear the fights that locked the content (Promyvions). In FFXI, the simple act of leveling to 30 to accomplish any of these was an order of magnitude more grueling and time consuming than finishing the MSQ in FFXIV.

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Can we also add that at lvl 30 you could barely even survive the shit you had to do to unlock some of the Jobs. You needed people to help you, cause there was no way in hell you were surviving some of the BS they threw at you.

It surprises me how some players if not just one mentioned mass effect - bioware game. Each mass effect series is independent from one another. They are not considerate an expansion of another. The very close example to FFXIV is the Sims. You can play the base game but you won't get any new accessory/cars/venues/worlds at least you buy an expansion.

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Originally Posted by Zordrage

I'm fine if stuff are locked behind stories etc

i LIKE that even when expansion is out old level content will not be soooo stupidly fast to level etc that you can get to 50 in a day or 2 alone ( it gives a feel that your character progression and time spent on it is not totally wasted.

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You are sorta in luck then? Yoshi mentioned in a recent live letter in May that the story quests will give DOUBLE the XP they give now, so you wont have to wait that long in order to get yourself to level 50 and into the expansion content :).
So HOPEFULLY you wont have to grind through dungeons and just be able to run through the story in like a day or 2 to get into a job that you would really enjoy!

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Originally Posted by lololink

I don't know what's worse...
That you use DK instead of DRK.

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Because Dark Knight.

Just like in EQ, Shadow Knights are called SKs instead of the ingame abbreviation on gear: SHD.

Or in both games where Paladins are called Pallies, not PAL/PLD.

Except he's 27 on Thousand maws you have to tie in rage of Halone as well