What cause players to quit Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

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Originally Posted by GaiaGuardian

I cannot say that I agree with many of your points Akiza, but one I can agree with is the raiding. I understand making a fight difficult, but I don't feel having one shot mechanics is exactly the way to go about it.

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Some say that, to be honest, even with multiple deaths in SCoB, you can still go onto to get the win. Our first clear of turn 9, DPS all died at least once, MT died (OT took over till tank rezzed) twice, healer died to heavensfall. Was close, but we got the kill. In fact all turns, our first kill usually came with multiple deaths.

The only ones that can cause issues are not hiding with shriek in turn 7 and tank dieing if only using 1.

The difference between smaller party size raids and large multiple party raids is that in the larger ones it's easier to cover bad gameplay by others, in other words, it's easier to carry. By having mechanics that bypass gear (aka one shots) it keeps a modicum of challenge, irregardless of gear. So you can't, as with simple tank and spank fights, simply overgear it to a point that you can practicallly ignore mechanics.

Funny thing is, those that complain of "one-shot mechanics" havn't done the content they are complaining about, just copy the opinion of someone else complaining who doesn't do the content either XD

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

Reason why SE shouldn't take these threads seriously: The biggest whiners still play the game.

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No, the biggest whiners USED TO play the game. And if you call this "whining" then you need to look up "hyperbole" in the dictionary and consider how it applies to your post.

This game is doing very well despite your whining dude.

Lol @ all this negative gibberish in response to OP's post. whiners whining about whiners, entertaining. Anyway, I can't agree with most of your points except raiding OP. I believe it should be a Loot Lockout. Other than that, if you aren't I suggest playing in moderation if you are into the pve and pvp aspects that involve combat. Combat is lolsboring and will you burn you out fast if you dont take your time. Maybe take a vacation till new patch? Besides that you can take up the gimmick non-sense, i mean content, also known as gardening, choco dying, and vanity hunting.

Seriously why should they take all this whining seriously. It's always the same people to the point that they're infamous, to the point where they are the almost the sole reason why everyone laughs at this place and after (seriously) a full year complaining about a game they clearly hate they are still playing it. They prove you could shovel any product out and they will still play it under their grumbling. As the most hopelessly loyal they are the perfect customers to take for granted, and the fact that they have composed countless words just shows how emotionally invested they are to this franchise. There is no reason to think they speak for anyone for themselves, the mainstream just votes with their wallet they don't hang around and make obsessive posts about pet issues that makes you wonder about their mental health.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Funny thing is, those that complain of "one-shot mechanics" havn't done the content they are complaining about, just copy the opinion of someone else complaining who doesn't do the content either XD

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I wish that was the case, but it isn't sadly. :/ The only one I have not won is T9, because people die to the stupidest mechanics. Seriously. Can't imagine how many times I've seen people kill others with jumps, or watching two golems fuse together. (Healer, so I just watch and facepalm, and often give them a piece of my mind as well.) I just feel that some of these fights are truly too unforgiving, even with good gear. Yes, clears do happen with players that have died, but once one has died, the ability to actually clear drops dramatically thanks to the debuff they get upon raise.

I just wish minor mistakes were not able to gimp a team so easily. I find it especially funny that these fights are this way in a game that was represented as such a casual friendly game. Not everything can be that easy, yeah, but that doesn't make it any less annoying with the huge difficulty spike thanks to mechanics that can drop you in mere seconds.

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Class/Job System- is boring, lacks creativity and depth because they built it around casual player skill oversimplifying it instead of building the system around the potential of the class/job.

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Every MMO does this has nothing to do with casual player skill or how good you are you pick a character you play it and its your own potential that makes the character.

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Combat- oversimplified and lacks depth there are no crowd control abilities, not a lot of support abilities and no skill chains.

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Different game, right when I seen chains I knew you were comparing it to FFXI and simple is good cause if it was complicated I wouldn't be playing I played Tera controls were so horrid I uninstalled after playing for 2 minutes.

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Raiding- has a lot of one shot mechanic and is unforgiving because if one player screws up he or she can wipe the entire party

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People don't quit because of this, though I do agree that there is no way people can recover from a tank or a healer wiping kinda screwing the others because makes them feel useless.
Same with T5 the dive bombs wipe out healers or tanks but if you recover and weakened during the explosion nobody still survives it has to be done 100% perfect and not worth it after 50+ deaths for what one item you might not get and story which will turn players away from doing that again.

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Weekly Lockout- Players can down T6-T9 on a weekly basis and not get a single loot drop for their class. Players wouldn't mind a weekly lockout if one piece of loot dropped for all classes

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Na I think this is good, the game needs more things that are drawn out which should take longer than they should, its the outside world things they need to have in order to keep people interested while they are locked out.

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In general anything worth getting in this game is a long boring grind for very little reward if something is going to be a long grind it will have to be the best item in the game until the next expansion.

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Game needs time to grow good things come when you wait nobody is forcing you to play the game while this happens you can quit and decide to come back later, though you might be lost on what to do.

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Zodiac Weapons- takes to long for the casual player to get for very little gain. At ilvl 110 it should take a max of 3 weeks for a player to get if they play 2 hrs a day since new Raids and gear come out every 6 mos.

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FFXI took years to get Relic weapon, FFXIV a shorter time, you want something that's gonna be worth it in the end work for it, you don't get it handed to you and if people quit cause of this then they shouldn't even play MMO.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

People don't quit because of this.

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I can't tell you, besides myself and my close friends, how many others quit because of this. So yeah, they do. I lost interest because of this (and many other flaws I feel the game has.)

Playing team jump rope is not fun. Having 4 end game bosses every half a year is not fun.

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Originally Posted by Meier

I can't tell you, besides myself and my close friends, how many others quit because of this. So yeah, they do. I lost interest because of this (and many other flaws I feel the game has.)
Playing team jump rope is not fun. Having 4 end game bosses every half a year is not fun.

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Really? I guess they aren't cut out for the MMO scene.
Because every single MMO I have played has almost similar mechanics and super hard to get a weapon or a piece of gear you wanted for a long time and it ain't easy.

Auction house prices beyond anything I could buy and battle systems might not be the same but outside and other places are hard to get to and die trying to get to another spot.
If they quit then like I said MMOrpg isn't something for them man FFXI I played for years my friend quit cause of a worm killing him but before he came clean about that he told me the game was too hard.

I played a lot of mmo's and destroyed them the only MMO's I didn't play were the ones where you point to click and walk and controls are really crappy.

and most of those MMO's like I said are basically the same thing, nothing is easy this isn't a single player video game where you can just push your way through to the end.
this is something you pay for to keep getting content and beating content not something that just is instantly handed to you.

I didn't play world of warcaft because that game spoiled people but I tried it, my cousin had like 5 different accounts with all high levels with all the best gear, I played for a bit on his account got a 60 death knight and it was too easy to do stuff raids easy I can see why it hit so many subs and people got lots of gear fast but look at the game now, you can join instantly get stuff handed to you without hassle.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

Reason why SE shouldn't take these threads seriously: The biggest whiners still play the game.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

This game is doing very well despite your whining dude.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

Seriously why should they take all this whining seriously

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I know you love to imagine that anyone who disagrees with you is "whining" (you were probably one of those who thought the first person to say "QQ" won the debate), but there are legitimate criticisms. The choice isn't between "love the game as much as a forum troll" and "GTFO". Take a deep breath, finish the homework assignment I gave you earlier, and learn.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

the mainstream just votes with their wallet they don't hang around and make obsessive posts about pet issues that makes you wonder about their mental health.

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I guess that means you're not mainstream.