9/10 you're playing an HD version of a FFXI character. Why are they adding Chocobos in FFXIV? And Airships? Those were in previous FF games, XIV is not FFIII or IV or V or VI or VI or VIII or IX.Quote:
Originally Posted by DNO
This is the greatest misconception, SE allowed you to level everything for freedom, which is why people seem to be against being social, you don't have to do everything yourself, it's ok to find someone else to help you with something. lol.
Famitsu FFXIV vol 1 summer 2011
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08-02-2011, 02:35 AMJennestia
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08-02-2011, 02:37 AMEvangelus
wee need others ... it's mmorpg !
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08-02-2011, 02:40 AMAlexNiculaie
Not the point. By limiting how many crafting Classes you can take to full level, they are basically reclassifying DoH as something less than the other Disciplines. If the plan is to level as many DoW/M/L as you want, why limit you on DoH? It's not internally consistent. Are they going to limit how many Disciplines you can level in the other groups as well? If not, then why do it at all?
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08-02-2011, 02:44 AMReinheart
Repairing might change completely with this dark matter stuff we juts got so I wouldn't worry too much about that part (just guessing)
I just didn't want to go through the crap I did in FFXI making 2nd char just for another crafting and specially if you need sub-class you had to do that class too... was pain in the butt... but oh well... if it happens it happens... it's way to control market/players so it should have something for sure. At least it's still low priority so don't have to worry about it for a while I think, they got other stuff they need to fix up first :) -
08-02-2011, 02:45 AMJennestiaFrom the get go DoH was stated to be support type classes, which they stated again recently they're seen as more support, don't know why people got a different idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie
It wouldn't make sense to limit DoW or DoM, especially with the upcoming Job system. It makes sense towards the support class because you need a focus in an MMORPG -- FFXIV's biggest issue it was heavily unfocused because you can do everything with absolutely no restriction beyond the amount of set points you have.Quote:
Are they going to limit how many Disciplines you can level in the other groups as well? If not, then why do it at all?
You can level as many things as you want, you just won't be able fully level a DoH presumably, which is fine, because Rank 50 you can already do pretty much everything. -
08-02-2011, 02:48 AMDNO
If we can not level each craft then there will be LESS crafters but the SAME amount of people looking for repairs dont you people get that. ONE craft a person makes sense in FF11 BECAUSE THERE WAS NO REPAIRS. We rely 100% on crafters to repair gear to 100% without paying a crazy amount of money to a NPC WHO ONLY REPAIRS IT TO 75%
And BTW there are a lot of MORE succesful MMOs that do not rely on people are much as ff11 and ff14 in fact 15 million subs in wow prove you all wrong.
The repair system works because 1 person can repair a lot of peoples gears because he/she can level a lot of crafts. if this system is going to work and not be a hurdle you NEED to not limit thing that people WANT to do. I WANT to level a lot of crafts and no limit from ff11 that makes ZERO sense in this game should stop me from doing that.
However if you take away the repairs altogether then i think its fair to limit crafts. You people need to realize this is not ff11 so stop trying to make it ff11. -
08-02-2011, 02:54 AMJennestiaIt isn't anything, why no one is playing this game yet people are indeed playing FFXI (by the hundreds of thousands by the way, still around 400k+), it's a bit ironic people want XIV to be like WoW or Tera or Rift though because they have "standard MMORPG features", how do you think they're standards? They're shared between multiple MMOs which makes them MMORPG-2 in essence, so your little "stop trying to make it into FFXI" already failed the second you created your character -- Did you know Elezen, Miqote, Hyur, Rogedyn and Lalafell are based on the FFXI races?Quote:
Originally Posted by DNO
Because it seems being social = the bad thing for MMORPGs of this generation, which is why everyone wants solo play be just as if not more rewarding than group play.Quote:
And BTW there are a lot of MORE succesful MMOs that do not rely on people
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08-02-2011, 02:57 AMZkieve
Limited crafts to max level is unnecessary and was a big let down in ffxi.There is no reason why i shouldn't be able to level whatever i want on 1 char.is one of the strong points of this game in the first place.I hate alts.
This only gives people a reason to pay for/create mules.
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08-02-2011, 02:59 AMAlexNiculaie
Believe it or not, you can still have focus without limiting the highest level one can achieve in support classes. The level you achieve, or number of classes you have shouldn't be the means of doing so, anyways. And if someone can work around this by simply purchasing more characters, how has it worked to help "focus" the game?
As for being able to do everything at 50, that's a rather short sighted statement. The level cap will increase later on, and there certainly will be plenty added for those higher levels. There are, and I am sure, will be new recipes that require multiple Classes, and unless they work to prevent it ahead of time, you are going to end up hitting items in your mastered Class which you won't be able to synth because of a required sub level. It happened in FFXI, so I could easily see it happening again here if they don't pay attention.
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08-02-2011, 02:59 AMDNOahhh yes completely ignore 90% of my post to complain and make points completely unrelated to what i was trying to say. Just because YOU like something does not mean it works in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
So like you i will completely ignore you and talk about absolutely nothing... i want to talk about the SKY!!!! ITS BLUE!!!!