Making Coil T1-5 easier sure, removing weekly lockout, lol wut?

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Originally Posted by Galand

Well maybe they shouldnt say something so stupid and vague in the first place, anyone with a half a brain would realize a vague statement like that would cause chaos

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Their statement isn't the problem, its simply that players are trigger happy and quick to make grand assumptions.

There is no mention that players are now able to receive coil loots repeatedly within the same week, if CT is of any indication, there will be item loot restrictions but players are able to run the dungeon repeatedly without the 1 week lockout.

Basically this is the how things are going to progress:


Darklight
Coil 1-5 and Myth
Release 1st Crystal Tower dungeon 3 months later for an extra half step in between for those who can't hack it in Darklight
Release Coil 6-9 and new tomes 3 months after that, Myth/Coil 1-5 gear becomes new Darklight, lockouts on 1-5 removed and echo buff put in for those who -still- haven't gotten their full Coil 1-5/myth gear.
Release 2nd Crystal Tower dungeon 3 months later for an extra half step for those who can't hack 6-9 in Coil 1-5/Myth gear
Release Coil 10-14 and final tome set 3 months after that, New Tome/coil 6-9 gear becomes new darklight, lockouts on 6-9 removed and echo buff put in for those who -still haven't gotten their full Coil 6-9/new tome gear.
Release Final Crystal Tower dungeon 3 months later for an extra half step for those who can't hack 10-14 in coil 6-10/new tome gear
Expansion comes out, lockouts removed for coil 10-14 to allow anyone who hasn't finished it up to do it. Expansion makes all this gear obsolete, anyway.

I mean, this was the plan from the start people. If you didn't realize it, you weren't paying attention.

Makes no difference to me as somebody who clears T1-5 in less than an hour each week if they nerf it and make it farm-able.

If you could not beat T1-5 pre nerf chances are you will not do well in T6-9. Let the players who can't take on the harder content experience an easier version when new content is added. It allows them to keep some challenge in the game for the more skilled players and dumbs it down later for the others.

This is not news and was the model SE stated they planned to use from the very start of ARR.

The higher end groups will always be ahead of the other groups. It does not matter if they nerf old content to allow groups to catch up a bit.

personally I think they should go the CT route and just keep the weekly lock outs but be able to spam the quests to help your fc mates and since most people are in statics when they run coil you can easily help and gear each other. It takes me and my static 45 mins to run T1-T4.

This guy, and all of the other people whining about this, are just butthurt that Square-Enix is not leaving the non-tryhards behind like they did with FFXI. This is normal MMO procedure; new content is released, old content is deprecated. Less dedicated players can now experience the old content without having to change the way they play the game. Current endgame players can quickly patch any holes in their equipment and gear their alternate jobs to make the new content smoother.

Business as usual, but to folks like the OP, it's the end of the world because for some strange reason, they seem to gain an inordinate amount of pleasure out of making sure most of the playerbase cannot participate in most of the content.

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Originally Posted by Tandy

I will give you a free (FREE OMG NO MONEY DOWN) education on MMO gearing.

Best in Slot gear is the best for the current content. Once new content comes out Best in Slot (BiS) will be replaced by new BiS. When this happens, the old gear is now worthless for the majority of the "Best" players. Now, the averge gamer aspires to get the old BiS while slowly working on the new.

If this cycle repeats a few times WITHOUT the devs making the old BiS easier to acquire....you end up in a state where the new or average gamer falls behind. Someone who recently started or hasn't seriously played for a while would need to gear through 2 or 3 or 4 sets of gear to get back to the current gear.

If new content "Coil 20" requires gear from 15/19 to tackle it, and 15 requires gear from 6/10 to have a shot at it....and you cant get gear from 15 since your still in 1/5 gear and no one is doing the "old" 6/10...well I would hope you can see the problem.

By making the tier exactly one step behind new content farmable and easy to aquire, everyone new and old subscribers, can participate.

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everyone new and old subscribers, can participate.

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Which is bad thing, goddammit!

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Originally Posted by Galand

Do you NOT understand English, there is a 100% difference in making something EASY and making it STUPID, NO ONE ever thought they would remove LOCKOUTS no mmo lets you CATCH up in a day, that is beyond idiotic

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RIGHT AWAY with the insults. Show some damn respect. There isn't even anything stupid about this. That's YOUR opinion. It doesn't mean that your opinion is correct.

But then again...do YOU understand english? Because it was never implied that they WOULDN'T remove lockouts.

And guess what! There's probably a time in the future where there is no Myth Cap. Does that break your heart snookums? Don't worry you'll be okay.

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Originally Posted by Pinworms

I don't understand some people.

- people cry foul over coils weekly lock out of each turn. It gets changed with no lockouts period and people cry foul still?

Wth jc

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It'll never end unfortunately...people have the need to feel "entitled" I guess. People like this think they're professional and they can make a game better than Square Enix. That's how they think. People don't understand...or even consider the processes that take place behind the scenes.

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Originally Posted by Tannlore

The problem is special snowflakes don't feel too special when they are made to melt a bit and have to reform back into special little snowflakes. It is sad really... Ah well.

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Originally Posted by Galand

Do you people know that most FCs clear T1-4 in under 40 mins??? People will be I90 in a DAY of farming

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Are you really that insecure about your precious time spent obtaining your i90?

Good lord chill out. It will be outdated content. It'll be the new Darklight for the patch like many others have said. You have obviously NOT played a lot of MMO's. This is standard protocol. Old content gets nerfed so people can get into new content faster. The game won't sell well or even be popular if people can't jump into new content in a timely manner. That's just bad design.

MMO player realized they wasted large amounts of time for pixels- throws tantrum that others will now get those pixels and he will have to waste time getting better pixels- News at 11.