Botters

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Originally Posted by Pulseczar

This botting witch hunt is getting out-of-hand. I'm getting sick of being blamed for it because I have a spot that I always like to craft in. Even when I answer their tells these pathetic fools just love pointing the finger. Would love to BL them but god-forbid I don't answer their tells.

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Just because you got 1 craft nearing 50 people say youre botting? Sorry but its either bs or you dont have luck in your server.

Most people in my server mind their own buisness and the only thing that is out of hand here is the number of botters.
As previously mentioned i dont have only tought about some people botting i know at least 10 that admited either directly or indirectly to me using botting programs on "vent" (live voice chat).

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Originally Posted by Shinigami

you dont have luck in your server.

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It's not about luck. It's the pathetic *** that don't have anything else to do but go around placing blame on legitimate players. Sure, there are botters (I don't care for botters either). But just because some of us sit in a spot and craft for hours on end doesn't mean we're botting.

It sounds like your one of those people that don't get the concept that some of us are patient with the crafting system and actually enjoy it.

Accusations of botting is one topic.. but I think that this thread should continue the discussion on how detrimental botters are to the legitimate players and whether or not Square Enix will punish those who cheat.

With that said.. I dont want to end up paying monthly for a game where my biggest REGRET is that I chose to OBEY the Terms Of Use and the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement.

It would be Prudent to have a legitimate response from the developers for legitimate players concerning this threads topic

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Originally Posted by MHB3000

Accusations of botting is one topic.. but I think that this thread should continue the discussion on how detrimental botters are to the legitimate players and whether or not Square Enix will punish those who cheat.

With that said.. I dont want to end up paying monthly for a game where my biggest REGRET is that I chose to OBEY the Terms Of Use and the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement.

It would be Prudent to have a legitimate response from the developers for legitimate players concerning this threads topic

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This is unfortunately where legit players are forced to make a choice. Continue to play legitimately and have the botters outstrip them in every craft by the time the game's primetime phase enters, or bot to keep up.

Because I gotta tell you: my faith that SE has a running list of people who have botted their way to two, three, four, all R50 crafts already and will punish them when the time is right: zero. These cheaters will get away with it scot free.

The damage is already done. Cheaters own the keys to this game's economy, and nothing was done, and nothing will retroactively be done to undo that damage.

The botters are smarter than SE. SE figures that they'll be caught eventually. No, they won't. They'll make hay while the sun shines, then the second SE starts dealing with botters they'll quit.

For this game to actually deal with the problem, Square already has to have a running list of hundreds of real players and thousands of accounts that are already going to be banned.

And they don't have a single name.

At the rate this game is going if the most casual player doesn't have 4+ crafts at 50 by the time there's a level cap raise, they either didn't play or didn't craft.

I can see why it might be in a company's financial interest to be more lenient towards certain kinds of characters with minor botting activity since they are, after all, making use of a paying account.

However, in the case of FF14, no one is paying any money, so it's not like SE is going to lose income over banning a few hundred botters.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

I can see why it might be in a company's financial interest to be more lenient towards certain kinds of characters with minor botting activity since they are, after all, making use of a paying account.

However, in the case of FF14, no one is paying any money, so it's not like SE is going to lose income over banning a few hundred botters.

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This is why I don't understand why SE isn't being aggressive about cheating. They don't stand to lose money. They built the entire game to crazily combat cheating and RMT...and then the STF is nowhere to be seen the first year of the game's life.

Doesn't make any sense to me at all why they would torpedo the game with anti-cheating and anti-rmt countermeasures that end up making the game unfun for everyone...and then allow people to cheat all the un-fun content they built to prevent cheating.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

This is why I don't understand why SE isn't being aggressive about cheating. They don't stand to lose money. They built the entire game to crazily combat cheating and RMT...and then the STF is nowhere to be seen the first year of the game's life.

Doesn't make any sense to me at all why they would torpedo the game with anti-cheating and anti-rmt countermeasures that end up making the game unfun for everyone...and then allow people to cheat all the un-fun content they built to prevent cheating.

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Yep. It's like...management has no idea what it's doing!

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/201...ada_on_losses/

lol

It's nice that they are rebooting Final Fantasy 14, but they should also reboot their senior management while they're at it.

I'm not allowed to say what I think of Yoichi Wada's Square Enix vision here.
Nickel and diming tamagotchi comes to mind.

The biggest problem so far is how SE decides to tackle these problems with botters and rmts, instead of addressing the issue of how reporting, investigation and suspension can be improved, or simply accepting the fact that people are going to cheat, and rmts are going to make money, they simply end up hurting the players that invest the time into this or that.
like right now, gatherers hit a 50% sp fatigue after a couple of hours, add the actual sp fatigue system on to this, and even at stage 1 you're losing 55% of your sp gain, and you aren't getting any items either

imagine if they made it so that after 200 synths you broke everything and received half sp for the synth
or you killed 200 monsters and now you get no drops, and your sp is halved

sound fair?
ya, i didn't think so