that irks me as a drk main and i see it in the 24 mans. i've always have both up when tanking
Well from what i have experienced as a tank doing a 24 man, if the tanks are all just standing there its usually because we all want to mt and so we all are fighting over it. i know i was holding up the raid cause of this reason when a pld would keep using provoke while im in WoD as a drk.
Apparently I live in an alternate dimension where doing something smart is considered taboo. I get into Satasha NM and immediately notice the tank has trouble holding aggro on groups of enemies. I use auto-translate to type {marauder}{overpower} mistakenly thinking some friendly advice would do wonders. Tank replies "start and I leave."
...huh?
I reply with "I'm just sayin Overpower is like your main aoe to hold aggro on groups..." Tank then leaves.
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F*** me for trying to be helpful I guess. Thankfully, we finished without him anyway.
Ran Weeping City earlier today. The co-healer in my party was a WHM that I noticed had less than 14k hp even with full party bonus, so I looked at their gear. The player was using a lv57 dungeon drop weapon and had a HQ lv54 body piece. I mentioned that they should really upgrade their gear and the response was "I'm a monk main, just trying to gear my off jobs :/". They also didn't seem to know what stoneskin II was (they kept single casting SS before bosses) and hadn't leveled THM enough to have swiftcast so they'd try to slow cast raise when someone died.
I swear, beyond just the min ilvl requirement for some content, there should be a "All of your gear must be at least ilvl XXX" so people can't bypass the min ilvl with higher accessories.
I've noticed a lot of Zurvan ex parties tend to dissolve into people bickering about mechanics like they're a bunch of grade-schoolers arguing about who has to do what in a group project.
I've also noticed a general trend of tanks not tanking in 24 person raids. It's not only that they won't pull the boss, but the off tanks won't pick up adds either, at least not until they've eaten half the healers and DDs in the alliance. Half the time I run Dun Scaith I feel like shouting at the tanks to at least try and do their job.