Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

pf is not open content wth are you talking about pf party finder not instance finder

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Originally Posted by Hazard1121

According to the Terms of Service (ToS) in Final Fantasy XIV, a player is not allowed to intentionally refuse to revive another player in a specific instance15. However, there have been changes to the "Prohibited Activities" and "Account Penalty Policy" to ensure players can continue to safely enjoy their time in the game24.

how about you look stuff up before you type and make yourself look like you just want to win and don't care

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That turbo-griefing is insane. Joining a premade that studied and is at a prog-point that they can clear, get in, and report everyone inside because it's against ToS to not waste their chemist rezzes on you.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

That turbo-griefing is insane. Joining a premade that studied and is at a prog-point that they can clear, get in, and report everyone inside because it's against ToS to not waste their chemist rezzes on you.

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Waste what? A 5s cooldown that can be done in or out of combat? It doesn't take MP or TP and it doesn't require an item. Or were you confusing chemist's revive with the chemist's other abilities that do require either an occult potion or an occult elixir?

Edit for extra stuff: Also one, its also an ability with no cast time. Two, its 30y range. Three, its infinite use. And four, its a weaponskill meaning it won't draw aggro from any elementals who would otherwise aggro if the rez was a spell instead. Basically the most free resurrection ability ever put in the game.

Just admit the actual reason, you view the dead player on the floor as a liability to the clear. As its got nothing to do with some strain on the chemist's resources.

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Originally Posted by Bryson

i'd argue the person refusing to use discord is the lazy player.

we clear twice every night, and in every run someone is getting their first clear.
sounds like a you problem.

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You keep bringing up every time "stop being a lazy player" to people who are attempting to run this and aren't able to find a Discord group because they are all full. I wouldn't even put it past some servers to have only a handful of first clears per run now.
Only 518 people have the demon cube mount, according to ffxivcollect. It's been almost a month since this content has been out, something 's up other then "people are too lazy to use discord".

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Originally Posted by Chasingstars

Waste what? A 5s cooldown that can be done in or out of combat? It doesn't take MP or TP and it doesn't require an item. Or were you confusing chemist's revive with the chemist's other abilities that do require either an occult potion or an occult elixir?

Edit for extra stuff: Also one, its also an ability with no cast time. Two, its 30y range. Three, its infinite use. And four, its a weaponskill meaning it won't draw aggro from any elementals who would otherwise aggro if the rez was a spell instead. Basically the most free resurrection ability ever put in the game.

Just admit the actual reason, you view the dead player on the floor as a liability to the clear. As its got nothing to do with some strain on the chemist's resources.

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I probably could worded that better. A player can only rez 3 times, if you cause multiple deaths (not careful around traps, bad mechanical baits, etcera) then you're wasting potential rezzes.

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Originally Posted by Volgia

I probably could worded that better. A player can only rez 3 times, if you cause multiple deaths (not careful around traps, bad mechanical baits, etcera) then you're wasting potential rezzes.

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Now that does make more sense and I fully agree with that. Which is much more understandable. With such a low amount of potential rezzing, it should be used sparingly. Although that bridge is fairly evil if you are too far to be rezzed.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

Only 518 people have the demon cube mount, according to ffxivcollect.

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Wait really? That is shockingly low. That is like what? The equivalent of 11 unique groups at most worth of players?

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Originally Posted by Volgia

I probably could worded that better. A player can only rez 3 times, if you cause multiple deaths (not careful around traps, bad mechanical baits, etcera) then you're wasting potential rezzes.

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nah you can be raise 3 times but you can raise anyone as much as you want as long they have a stack of raise. Edit: Oh sorry didn't get it. Yes indeed you don't want to kill someone because you don't know what to do when they are probably further in prog. (or clear)
The main problem is that if a group try to clear and are at last boss for exemple, the guy without any exp will maybe wipe everyone way before they go to the prog point.
It's like joining a pf for ultimate for last phase but having no exp past phase 1.

ffcollect doesn't have everyone. There is way more people who have clear it now.

To those whining about not getting into groups, just host your own runs? I wasn't even done with boss 2 and still hosted my runs. You can't expect others to carry you, be it as a sniper or as an FFA joiner. Plenty of people make it into first-timer runs, and plenty of people just yolo it together. Discord parties pop up a lot, and there's signup ones as well, where people who cleared are not prioritized, so you don't even need to host as long as you speak up and write down the Phantom Jobs you bring to the table.

/e: Also, ressing one sniper means risking them killing 47 people. And because everyone can only be raised 3x each, I'm going to be real: the sniper dying shows they will make more mistakes and therefore be likely to cause other people to have undeserved deaths.

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Originally Posted by Jeycht

ffcollect doesn't have everyone. There is way more people who have clear it now.

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Okay so their data is behind. That makes more sense. Surely its got to be closer to 1000 at least if its apparently 400 or so clears at least according to the devs.