SP nerfed. We were lied to.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

The analogy was over her going to the movies versus going shopping. If you think that is a grave offense, then. . . well I don't know whats wrong. Its a fickle minor thing. Just like what you are arguing over with 1.18.

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Well, someone got it.

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Originally Posted by Emonzaemon

I don't know what letter you read but it was a letter to address the near future and talked about specific interest for 1.18. Other wise he wouldn't have said anything that's to come further down the line. Also, that's what an interpretation IS, how YOU perceive it, whether it be for fact or opinion (As to whether it's deception or "lying" or not). Apparently not many people noticed (or agreed, atleast no in the pages I've skimmed over, it's 77 pages and I don't care to read everything) that it was lying as all they've said is they want their EXP gains to be faster, with a few complaints about MP.

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This is the first part of the letter:

"I’m sorry to have kept you waiting so long, but patch 1.18 will finally be going live this week! This version marks the beginning of big changes being readily visible on-screen, such as the auto-attack feature, as well as a number of others, both big and small. It took a while to get it all ready, but we hope you all enjoy this first wind of change sweeping across Eorzea!"

Look at the bold areas "this first wind of change" meaning this first major patch.

And to further prove it this is near the end:

"In my next post, I hope to talk about 1.19 and have some more details for you on the changes in store."

Meaning he did not talk about 1.19 this time.

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The mere fact of making sure that a person acknowledges if they lied or changed their mind (in the scenario I posted), means that you want them to dwell on it, which in turn causes guild.

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If you think the developers care at all about what some player posts on this forum you are sadly mistaken. This was a thread to be discussed among other players who noticed the same things I pointed out. That's it.

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Originally Posted by Emonzaemon

As to if my G/F "lied" to me or not, I wouldn't mind if she decided to CHANGE HER MIND on something absolutely inconsequential. Now if she were to cheat on me with absolutely no remorse what so ever, that's a different story, but an entirely different discussion.

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You are 100% right. But that example is not a good one for what happened here because it was not inconsequential. That lie means hours upon hours of more grinding. It has huge impact on game play.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

The analogy was over her going to the movies versus going shopping. If you think that is a grave offense, then. . . well I don't know whats wrong. Its a fickle minor thing. Just like what you are arguing over with 1.18.

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You are right that was a bad analogy because it was a very insignificant issue of no consequence. Yoshi's lie mean 2 to 3 times as much time investment to achieve the same results pre-patch. If 3 times as long is a "fickle minor" thing to you that's your personal opinion and I respect it. I think it a major difference.

Do you realize you've been complaining for like 50 hours? Do you have a family? Are they worried? You need a therapist if SP in a game bugs you this bad man. Next step is an imaginary friend that tells you to start fires.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

You are 100% right. But that example is not a good one for what happened here because it was not inconsequential. That lie means hours upon hours of more grinding. It has huge impact on game play.

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But that's opposed to not being able to spend ANY hours on grinding at ALL, so I don't see the big deal.

You pointed out that's it's the FIRST wind of changes. And I don't see why you seem to think bringing up developers reading this or not, I haven't said anything for them to read to begin with, I'm doing exactly what you keep talking about.

I also like how you left out the following:

"We’re also going to be balancing in-game means of transportation. Our main focus will be on the already existing anima-based teleportation system, but new forms of high-speed travel are on the way as well."

That obviously didn't happen this patch.

"The Future of Ranking Up" (This is where it gets good)

"but I plan to make the process both possible and enjoyable for players willing to invest the time, even if they’re solo, and even by doing quests and guildleves."

Key words to note in this quote "I plan to make the process"

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Originally Posted by Emonzaemon

"but I plan to make the process both possible and enjoyable for players willing to invest the time, even if they’re solo, and even by doing quests and guildleves."

Key words to note in this quote "I plan to make the process"

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Yeah I'm gonna give you a clue and you figure it out: Letter from the Producer, XIV (07/20/2011) Hint: The patch went live the 21st.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

Yeah I'm gonna give you a clue and you figure it out: Letter from the Producer, XIV (07/20/2011) Hint: The patch went live the 21st.

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Looks like it went straight over your head and got lost in another dimension somewhere.

because I'm fairly certain you have no idea what I just pointed out, or what that letter was even trying to say.

DOWN WITH SE! INVADE JAPAN!!

Hmm I did 3 levels in Hlalti with my brother and upon completion got a nice 3-4k SP for completing the lev amongs the SP garnered in battle so 5-6k SP per lev seems pretty good to me. Only downside is if it's not your lev you get a fraction of that 600ish~

Still not bad incentive to help people with their leves, and thankfully makes purposefully failing levs suck.