Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

Players who stands mile away from boss, heals/buff never reach them.
They die because nobody knows where the *** they are
Can't even ress them right away - because their corpse is god knows where.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The Tidal Wave is still the single deadliest part of that fight.

Especially the time I learned the hard way that it could come from the back of the platform, not just the sides.

Seven out of eight people washed away.

No, I was not the one.

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Yeah I learned the hard way that if you can't see the tidal wave...it's because it's behind the boss.

I forget dungeon name but it's the one where the final boss has 3 invincible phases with corrupted crystals...so a pre-50 dungeon.

It was my Leveling Roulette ( I've not done one in ages since I really don't have anything to level but trying to get my last 2 up there ) and one of the DPS was voted out right before 2nd boss.

There seems to be an argument going on between the other DPS and tank against the healer. Apparently the healer was against the kick so they shortly leave too. So now it's me, the other DPS, and the tank. I sit there for a moment waiting for a healer to pop but after 2 minutes I'm like "Nah this is pre-50 so we can single pull and do bosses without. Tank might die but that's a risk I'm willing to take cause I knew us DPS would finish it".

Sure enough we kill 2nd boss and tank was just barely alive. We start to do the big room and we are single pulling no prob when the healer pops up finally. Tank starts to multi pull and pretty much uneventful and smooth sailing from there. At least it was a quick roulette. Just 4 total levels and all my classes are donezo.

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

Players who stands mile away from boss, heals/buff never reach them.
They die because nobody knows where the *** they are
Can't even ress them right away - because their corpse is god knows where.

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Welcome to MMORPGs my guy.

FFXIV? I have a BRD/BLM standing in Thavnair while the rest of us are on the boss. (and SOME HOW you're outside my ridiculous ES range)

WoW? The same but with Ranger and he's in the Outlands.

ESO? I have a CONE HEAL for ~8-10y in front of me that buffs your damage and for SOME UNGODSLY REASON (the Divines, the Twelve or w/e religion you follow on Azeroth) I get the Magicka or Stamina (or hybrid now I guess *throws up hands*) ranged DPS 10FT BEHIND ME.

And on top of that?

They also run like headless chickens away from you at times.

...You learn to deal with it /sigh

On the upside, FFXIV doesn't really have a lot of places the DPS can run to.

One day I will try ESO.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

One day I will try ESO.

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It has its downsides and upsides like any MMO.

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

...You learn to deal with it /sigh

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Yeah, it's called taking the "Does It Look Like I Give A F"(or DILLIGAF for short) approach when someone who does that dies.

No one can heal stupid. Don't drive yourself crazy trying.

I don't even know how to call this

https://i.postimg.cc/wB1CrjMC/ezgif-1-04a92f2154.gif

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

I don't even know how to call this

https://i.postimg.cc/wB1CrjMC/ezgif-1-04a92f2154.gif

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Two things: whole lotta oop, and recoverable as long as you or the healers don't get the tankbuster.

SO I have two stories from small roulettes I did to finally get RPR to 90.

1. So doing the dungeon where we beat up frogs ( I am TERRIBLE at remembering dungeon names ) and I knew this was gonna go...in ways...because one no one interrupts the frog from making mobs bigger. My stun does not work so it needed to be a tank or I believe a ranged physical...it doesn't happen and we end up wiping. So now tank is single pulling and although slower it is safer if either tank or healer isn't up to snuff. Anyway get to final boss and I thought I had a genius moment because Reaper can teleport forward or backward...but also return to that spot. So I backport early just as he is about to cause the bridge walk mechanic. I know you can't jump it or else you go straight down but I'm literally TELEPORTING...however nope even between dimensions you can't cheese that mechanic even though the Scions can ( I call hax! ). I get to the end though and start DPSing and that's when I realize the others aren't INSIDE the zone. I start calling for inside but I don't think they understand me and we wipe. Turns out one was watching a movie which frankly I totally understand since content is mostly braindead easy and I do it too on occasion.

2. I do the one where dragon boy is like "No don't kill them and I'm all like yo they are eating you and he's all like yeah you got a point let's kill these fools". So I learned that with 2 stacks pf Shroud...you can DPS peel off aggro off the tank. I probably shouldn't have gone extra on my DPS cause I'm starting to get aggro but at least I'm killing them so hard that once I got their attention they are pretty much dead. Anyway it ends with me trying to be a showoff so I die a needless dead, raise, and get killed immediately again by a raidwide cause I forget you are targetable the second you do any sort of action. Cool boy points go down by 2.

any movement ability including jumps and teleports are programmed as if they are fast sprints. its all 2D. not only for that mechanic but for any aoe effect in your way

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Originally Posted by Kyasunshine

I know. Just I like then healers know - they are healers. They are not dps members. Its a cringe if you as WHM waiting while my hp down 20% and use benefiction after. I'm not robot or numbers on your panel. I am paladin. I am man. Think about players like they mans. Not like "he don't die I don't heal him". Nah I hate this gameplay style. Its good on savage. But not good on normal content where you can play as roleplay character.

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*fires up her Glare finger*

I’ll prolly kill it before you reach 90% HP anyway :)

This gave me a good chuckle.
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Originally Posted by Renalt

My stun does not work so it needed to be a tank or I believe a ranged physical...it doesn't happen and we end up wiping

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Not sure but i think if 2 people stun it cancels each other out. Maybe that happened here.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Anyway get to final boss and I thought I had a genius moment because Reaper can teleport forward or backward...but also return to that spot. So I backport early just as he is about to cause the bridge walk mechanic. I know you can't jump it or else you go straight down but I'm literally TELEPORTING...however nope even between dimensions you can't cheese that mechanic even though the Scions can ( I call hax! )

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That's unfortunate, but on the positive: Now i don't have to test for myself.

Never learn the names. Your descriptions are way better :D

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Originally Posted by Xirean

*big pic*

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I hate when somebody swaps and Montanas.

Fun: Pic your choice :D (MT)

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Originally Posted by Xirean

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Ok but seriously...You're needed in battle!

On another note Blue is fine and is right. Red is slightly right too but is being a major butt about it and needs to calm their moobs.

Seems like red doesn't pick up on context clues when someone goes "oops MT" which in that text...usually proceeded by something said that doesn't make sense with what is going on that.it means Mistell in that case.

They obviously saw you as tank and just put it together as Main Tank.

Or maybe they are just REALLY against admitting they made a mistake in noticing what you meant and wanted to double down and be a butt.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Ok but seriously...You're needed in battle!

On another note Blue is fine and is right. Red is slightly right too but is being a major butt about it and needs to calm their mobs.

Seems like red doesn't pick up on context clues when someone goes "oops MT" which in that text...usually proceeded by something said that doesn't make sense with what is going on that.it means Mistell in that case.

They obviously saw you as tank and just put it together as Main Tank.

Or maybe they are just REALLY against admitting they made a mistake in noticing what you meant and wanted to double down and be a butt.

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For clarification. I put red for DPS. It was actually multiple people though. I didn't cover the job symbols in hopes to clarify that. This line confused basically the entire party and we had a good laugh after we left. There were also a few moments of the raid where the bosses switched targets. Either way I'm not concerned with who is "right" in this scenario.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

For clarification. I put red for DPS. It was actually multiple people though. I didn't cover the job symbols in hopes to clarify that. This line confused basically the entire party and we had a good laugh after we left. There were also a few moments of the raid where the bosses switched targets. Either way I'm not concerned with who is "right" in this scenario.

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If the boss was switching targets and the MT came up i would chalk it up to bad timing cause MT means both things.

But now we should be talking about how to hold a boss. Whoever pulls first of the tanks is just the dedicated MT IMO...I would do my first leap/combo and then immediately shirk to the MT if I was OT to ensure I do not pull from them when I'm Blue DPSing. In the event if MT looses aggro without dying they need to provoke it back immediately to prevent a "spin and cleave".

Sounds like the tanks didn't have a plan other than "dive and what happens, happens".

Just glad you are over and done with on that group.

Edit - after looking for much longer than I should have too cause apparently finding an answer to this is hard...you can not shirk an Alliance tank. Only within your party. So it's an ability that is 100% worthless in 100% of Alliances. That's dumb. Regardless I've been doing it since forever...and for no reason it seems other than habit.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

This gave me a good chuckle.

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Urban dictionary isnt ff14 LMAO
Still...you can always learn one or two bad words here

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Originally Posted by Elissar

Urban dictionary isnt ff14 LMAO
Still...you can always learn one or two bad words here

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Do you read read as read or read in this sentence?

Context is very important in situations where the same spelling can be completely different meanings. So in this case MT makes since as he was meaning MT and not MT.

I once typed 'MT' after mistargeting because I couldn't type 'mistarget' in time.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Do you read read as read or read in this sentence?

Context is very important in situations where the same spelling can be completely different meanings. So in this case MT makes since as he was meaning MT and not MT.

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no, it was MT, not ur MT or MT

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

I don't even know how to call this

https://i.postimg.cc/wB1CrjMC/ezgif-1-04a92f2154.gif

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What is going on with those graphics?

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

You're not going to believe this, but...

I got Aurum Vale in leveling roulette.
The tank was a new sprout.
We cleared the first room, and in fact the entire dungeon, without any issues or deaths.
The tank was facing the 2nd boss the wrong way, and a couple of us got clipped a few times, but it was fine.
People actually ate the fruits to clear the debuff at appropriate times.
After we clear, the tank says they are new at tanking and asks if he did okay.
We tell him he was good, and one person commented he could work on boss facing but otherwise great job.
The tank is grateful for the advice and thanks us all for our patience.
We all went our separate ways on friendly terms and no one (I assume) went and screamed on the forums about entitled "you don't pay my sub" babies who can't handle criticism.

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To be fair, I think that a lot of problems with the Aurum Vale comes from people (and often, the tanks) used to HL dungeon, and try to multipack a lot of things, while the healers at that lvl don't have any instant heal and lack a lot of their healing tools. Any stop to solidify your aggro then move again to get the next pack practically means death, since the healer was probably healing the tank when he restarted, and either had to interrupt the cast and leave the tank low hp, meaning him dying at next stop, either finish it and be too far to heal him at next stop. Dungeon from 43-44 to 49 are tricky on this, and for people that have done a while ago, and for players that haven't played heal at that lvl for a long time, it's not always obvious.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

To be fair, I think that a lot of problems with the Aurum Vale comes from people (and often, the tanks) used to HL dungeon, and try to multipack a lot of things, while the healers at that lvl don't have any instant heal and lack a lot of their healing tools. Any stop to solidify your aggro then move again to get the next pack practically means death, since the healer was probably healing the tank when he restarted, and either had to interrupt the cast and leave the tank low hp, meaning him dying at next stop, either finish it and be too far to heal him at next stop. Dungeon from 43-44 to 49 are tricky on this, and for people that have done a while ago, and for players that haven't played heal at that lvl for a long time, it's not always obvious.

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No, the main problem that Aurum Vale has a lot of shortcuts, like hiding behind the left corner in 1st boss chamber, to avoid triggering more patrols, running on straight line to 2nd boss chamber, and fight in boss chamber again, to avoid triggering packs on left and right, or skipping 1 pack after 2nd boss fight, taking path as left as possible.
The problem, that new players or players who dont care dont know that, but "pro" Tanks expecting u to know that, and they just rushing to that "left" corner, making new healers panicking.

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Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem

What is going on with those graphics?

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Have you ever made a gif out of video so it wouldn't have a size of a full 2h movie? /s

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

I don't even know how to call this

https://i.postimg.cc/wB1CrjMC/ezgif-1-04a92f2154.gif

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You always have the most amusing GIFs lol.

I also need to be in those runs as a healer.... pls make me feel alive, roulette.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

You always have the most amusing GIFs lol.

I also need to be in those runs as a healer.... pls make me feel alive, roulette.

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Thanks, but I am not sure you really want to be in those runs xD

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

Thanks, but I am not sure you really want to be in those runs xD

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I would. I love those raids when it all falls apart, as a healer. Take spicy, over bland, any day.

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

I would. I love those raids when it all falls apart, as a healer. Take spicy, over bland, any day.

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I understand your desire for adrenaline, but I don't really like to be a collateral damage :D
I like when other people are dying funny tho.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

You always have the most amusing GIFs lol.

I also need to be in those runs as a healer.... pls make me feel alive, roulette.

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From experience, your best bet is to queue Dun Scaith and any of the Ivalice or Nier raids. Roulette has only given me like 3 noteworthy experiences and they were all WoD.

Rolls alliance roulette because dps in need, gets Breach. Oh my god finally something I can use my skills on! Moar buttons!

Me on MNK: Aright we got lb2, the first boss is down to 10%, and people in the other alliances are dying. May as well use it. *uses it*

My dance partner: WHO WASTED LB?!?!?!111

None of us say anything. I guess they wanted their lb3 anime finisher at 0.1%. Lb bar gets reset at the next boss anyway lmao

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

Rolls alliance roulette because dps in need, gets Breach. Oh my god finally something I can use my skills on! Moar buttons!

Me on MNK: Aright we got lb2, the first boss is down to 10%, and people in the other alliances are dying. May as well use it. *uses it*

My dance partner: WHO WASTED LB?!?!?!111

None of us say anything. I guess they wanted their lb3 anime finisher at 0.1%. Lb bar gets reset at the next boss anyway lmao

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The sheer amount of people who sit on an LB and either never use it, try to bank it and lose it all on the next boss, or try to greed it and like you said use it when 90% of the LB is overkill is way too high.

The LB is there to be used...sooooo...

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Originally Posted by Renalt

The sheer amount of people who sit on an LB and either never use it, try to bank it and lose it all on the next boss, or try to greed it and like you said use it when 90% of the LB is overkill is way too high.

The LB is there to be used...sooooo...

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I'd love to if mine weren't useless outside of LB3 or the party nearing a wipe.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

Lb bar gets reset at the next boss anyway lmao

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I once almost got kicked from Alliance Raid for using LB2 right on Boss Pull as a healer, for "wasting the lb"

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Originally Posted by Remolia

I once almost got kicked from Alliance Raid for using LB2 right on Boss Pull as a healer, for "wasting the lb"

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You can be kicked from an Alliance raid? That's like extremely hard to do since the moment first boss is cleared there is always that one person who won't roll and thus people are stuck with them till the end of the run.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

You can be kicked from an Alliance raid? That's like extremely hard to do since the moment first boss is cleared there is always that one person who won't roll and thus people are stuck with them till the end of the run.

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there is a small time frame before opening the chest, its usually most common time I got kicked.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

The sheer amount of people who sit on an LB and either never use it, try to bank it and lose it all on the next boss, or try to greed it and like you said use it when 90% of the LB is overkill is way too high.

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I mean, if the boss is dead and the next pull is alliance trash then saving it for a ranged/caster LB might be more useful(but not worth complaining over). Afterall, its pulling the next boss that resets the LB bar so trash mobs dont count. Ive also been known to attempt to pull the next boss with a left-over LB. This usually fails when one of the tanks just YOLOs in and the bar is reset before the cast goes off, but ive certainly tried.

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Originally Posted by Remolia

there is a small time frame before opening the chest, its usually most common time I got kicked.

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Yup, thats when i would try to kick you. If the group is bad enough to wipe to any given fight, then we get a second chance.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

I mean, if the boss is dead and the next pull is alliance trash then saving it for a ranged/caster LB might be more useful(but not worth complaining over). Afterall, its pulling the next boss that resets the LB bar so trash mobs dont count. Ive also been known to attempt to pull the next boss with a left-over LB. This usually fails when one of the tanks just YOLOs in and the bar is reset before the cast goes off, but ive certainly tried.



Yup, thats when i would try to kick you. If the group is bad enough to wipe to any given fight, then we get a second chance.

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I used LB once in my early days in game not really knowing what it did and got screamed at in the dungeon so I took it off my bars. Then years later doing Prae (before it got changed) the tank told me to use LB to pull Nero. I had to find it an put it back on my bar to do it. Fortunately the group was kind about it.

I generally dont use it except to finish off a boss at the end of a dungeon because I really never have sorted out when its ok to use and when not. Mind you I mostly play ranged DPS.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Yup, thats when i would try to kick you. If the group is bad enough to wipe to any given fight, then we get a second chance.

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chest spawns only when u defeat the boss, not when u wipe.