Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

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Originally Posted by Minorinz

Just a warning guys, this only works for summoner because of the low WD unlike other jobs. Not sure what the stats are for other jobs.

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What do you mean low WD ? It has the same WD as BLM o.o

Edit: Are you ok with me using that pic on reddit ?

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

What do you mean low WD ? It has the same WD as BLM o.o

Edit: Are you ok with me using that pic on reddit ?

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I'm talking about this (2.0 WD stats not 3.0):

Bard: 9.429
Ninja: 9.132
Monk: 9.338
Dragoon: 9.349
SMN: 6.911


If it's gonna help people then sure, feel free to share.

edit: black mages have the same total magical damage. i'm just not sure about their weapon damage to main stat ratio because their secondary stats weight is different than ours, i think s: ?

Pretty sure SMN is the only class you can comparatively consider secondary stats over WD. The reason for that before was largely SMN DoTs not being so heavily influenced by WD. I havent checked to see how true that still is in 3.0 but id be curious in that regard.

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Originally Posted by Minorinz

I'm talking about this (2.0 WD stats not 3.0):

Bard: 9.429
Ninja: 9.132
Monk: 9.338
Dragoon: 9.349
SMN: 6.911


If it's gonna help people then sure, feel free to share.

edit: black mages have the same total magical damage. i'm just not sure about their weapon damage to main stat ratio because their secondary stats weight is different than ours, i think s: ?

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the reason it 's higher is because of their comparitavely higher total WD, not because of their total Scaling. same for BLM.

Do anybody have any info what is SMN stat weights 3.0?

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Originally Posted by Odowla

the reason it 's higher is because of their comparitavely higher total WD, not because of their total Scaling. same for BLM.

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i know how it works, i've seen their total physical damage being lower than us casters.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

Do anybody have any info what is SMN stat weights 3.0?

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i posted it like 2 pages back go look for it

You can't "scale" stats like that. The 3.0 Slummoner functions completely differently than the 2.0 Summoner.

Stat weights are calculated based on their rotational impact. They're never scaled equally across all Jobs.

But yes, MD will always weigh less on DoMs as their magic damage is high and the original Stat-Weight metmethodology adds the impact of AA_DMG with WD.

DoMs don't use their AAs.

Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.

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And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.

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Originally Posted by Grimm08

And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.

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Because I am assuming more groups will start clearing A3S next week. And having the 210 chest + 210 ring will be better than having 200 weapon for A4S.