Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

Yeah, I've been studying his rotation, my main issue is my TP easy to drain out.
Starting to lvl up my DRG for "Invigorate", that skill is my highest priority compared with "Blood for Blood".
But I will lvl up to 34, because in the end I still need "Blood for Blood".
And also starting to learn use potion and food for additional DPS.

Kinda rushing a bit because Heavensward is near, want to clear all coil before that.

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Godspeed Nuyu. It looks like you are on the right path.

The way I see it, elitism counts in kindess to other players. We all had to start somewhere, right? So If you refer yourself as an elitist, but you have a shitty attitude and talk down to others who are far less deserving of your ire, you're an asshole. There are far more scrubs out there that could use a heavy dose of scrutiny, than someone who is still legitimately learning the content.

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

Yeah, I've been studying his rotation, my main issue is my TP easy to drain out.
Starting to lvl up my DRG for "Invigorate", that skill is my highest priority compared with "Blood for Blood".
But I will lvl up to 34, because in the end I still need "Blood for Blood".
And also starting to learn use potion and food for additional DPS.

Kinda rushing a bit because Heavensward is near, want to clear all coil before that.

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Awesome once you have both those skills it'll help lots =)

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

Be the first doesn't mean you're the best. What we discuss here is about veterans attitude, if I was them I don't mind at all to carry newbies there to show how the mechanic works.

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What you (and many others who are mad at 'elitists') conveniently ignore is, that A LOT of veterans are sick of the attitude they are often presented with when trying to help a newbie. It looks like the vast majority of new people you meet in duty finder do not want to improve at all and think it's okay to get carried because it's their 14 bucks a month and because they pay that, they deserve every clear handed to them... by other people.

It's completely understandable that not everyone wants to deal with this awful attitude. And then those same people go on the Lodestone or Reddit and rage about 'elitists' and how evil they are for not carrying them.

I can safely say that the nicest people I know ingame are what the Lodestone would call 'elitists'.

Here is my thought on the entire thing. COming from someone who at times has complained about the elitist attitude from time to time and have been accused of being elitist myself I have a few things to say on it. Elitism is perfectly fine as long as you dont rub other people's nose into it that your better than them. If you join a DF and expect perfection from every person and talk down to people or rage quit, then YOU are in the wrong. If you create a party finder and say Know your stuff, dont whipe, you will be kicked etc That is YOUR Party finder and YOUR right. There are casuals, there are weekend warriors, there are hardcore players, there are all walks of life on this game. Being someone who has all content on farm to a point where i can watch a movie, talk on the phone, and talk in my LS and FC while farming Final Coil I myself prefer to group with players of the same skill level. that being said. If I join a "learning party" I expect wipes, I expect struggle to a point.

I look at it this way. If your in a learning/progression party helping others, as long as people are getting past the spot they died to previously they are making "progress" if they arent.. then they arent learning, they are making the same mistakes over and over and wasting mine, and other people's time. I will kindly point out the mistake, if i see the person repeatedly making same mistake I will let them know that this is getting a bit old. After enough times of the same mistake from the same person I will suggest replacing this person until they are able to contribute to the over all party. If I was wiping the party repeatedly, I would expect no different.

If I create a party finder for "farming" I expect people to be on that level.. Farming. If you join a farming party in a party finder you should be comfortable with that fight to a point where you can do it in your sleep and one shot over and over. if you have cleared great awesome. But if you join a farming party and wipe the party to mechanics and its not a one shot, then your holding people back at that point. I will disband parties that I make if people cant farm. If you join a party with certain expectations, and cant live up to them then expect some backlash. If you have cleared, but dont feel comfortable that you as a player can do it your sleep then you should join a few clear parties and get more practice before you join a "farm" Just how I feel.

I am not an elitist in the sense I talk down to people, I know im a skilled player and probably can do things easier than others. however I wont belittle people or call them scrubs. However I will expect them to take accountability for their faults, and know the role they are expected to play based on what they are joining. I run learning parties, help players, teach players all the time. however I wont sit in a party for 4 hours that isnt making gains in a fight and if that makes me an elitist.. Then so be it.

My static helped 3 people get T13 clears last night in lieu of farming. I think we're going to be doing more learning/clears at raid time. Farming the same old crap on the same old jobs is getting stale for all of us. Helping people learn or clear that same content though, that kinda breathes new life into it for us. First clears are happy things for everyone. ^^

We are converting people to the elitist cause one clear at a time~

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Originally Posted by Elazu

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Never in my intention to ask them to carry me until it success (t9), that's violate my protocol and my dignity.
I just want to ask them to follow me for first time to build up my confidence and to learn the strategies, not mechanic but strategies.
Because the guide from video are different from the actual strategies in masamune, but yeah some people are too good to have their time for new player.

I'm not mad at them, just disappointed.