Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

I would be fully supportive of the Netherseer from Tactics with a big ole hammer or scythe as it’s melee weapon. The seer jobs from tactics weren’t overly “casters” and could do fine in melee combat. The netherseer spells could just be the reverse of red mage.

This is my off-tangent interpretations of the hints. I am going along the line that only the Neighborhood and Children of Bodom top are linked to the 2nd job.

Both tops show a "grim reaper" figure. The Neighborhood one is Death from Marvel (Also MCU/Avenger reference). The Children of Bodom one is probably just a generic grim reaper. Both are supernatural personification of death. Children of Bodom is a Finnish/Nordic metal band. Could the hint be linked to a mythological figure of death, and of the norse mythos?

Although the Norse goddess of death is Hel, Freyja is also attributed as a goddess of death and often depicted as a Valkyrie. The Valkyries are responsible for bringing the dead to Norse "heaven". Valkyries appear in many square franchises and although they are essentially dragoon with a different name or gender, they could as easily be redesigned to be different from dragoon. The maiming gear set would fit Valkyries thematically. For weapons. Valkyries in other games commonly wield sword, spear, bow and hammer, and scythe.

So my guess is the new job is thematically a Valkyrie. The weapon will be a scythe or a transformable scythe. The job will be a magic-based melee DPS.

I think Yoshi-P was trying to hint at some existing playable job or character in final fantasy with his shirts, like we've had with the other ones so far.

With 007 shirt for Machinist, you just had to figure out what weapon that would hint towards, and what other aspects there were that could hint to some particular job or character. Obviously the weapon was pistol, and then 007 also has a lot of gadgets, which made it pretty easy to figure out that it was Machinist.

Doing the same for these two shirts, I think it's pretty obvious that the hint is "Reaper". I don't mean that the job will be Reaper, but I think a reaper is a hint, just like 007 was for machinist. The weapon you associate with reaper, is a scythe (there's a scythe on second shirt too). What else does reapers do? Well, reap souls.

Does this fit into any existing job or character in final fantasy? Not as obviously as with Machinist, but there is one that does fit that pretty well IMO, which is Sice from Type-0. It has been mentioned by many others already, but I'm just stating my way of thinking about it, and what I predict. Sice uses a Scythe, which is the only character or job outside of Dark Knight in XI that uses one, I think. She also absorbs the hatred of dead enemies. To me, that's pretty similar to what a reaper does, except it's hatred (malice) instead of souls. She also have an ability called Grim Reaper, and is kinda seen as a grim reaper in the game.

Very simple and straightforward theory, which I think is good. It also would fit Zenos (who I think will change to this new job) pretty well too, with the whole absorbing hatred part.

My prediction is nothing special Reaper/ Grim Reaper with a Scythe.

I think they're going to be a sort of caster hybrid too in terms of gameplay, basically that they'll take the cast times of Midare and expand that concept and give the Job a ton of skills like that.
Maybe it'll be unpopular, I mean a lot of people flipped out about Bard getting cast times but I personally think it'd be really cool if done right.
I want something different than just basic 123 combo like the rest.

After catching up on this thread, I'm now concerned that we will have another male Viera or dancer as healer problem, if the new melee dps isn't a scythe wielder.

The community needs to temper themselves and remember Yoshi-p is going to Yoshi-p, so lets just be pleasantly surprised no matter what it is.

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Originally Posted by Kesey

After catching up on this thread, I'm now concerned that we will have another male Viera or dancer as healer problem, if the new melee dps isn't a scythe wielder.

The community needs to temper themselves and remember Yoshi-p is going to Yoshi-p, so lets just be pleasantly surprised no matter what it is.

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Will always be people who are disappointed, but I seem to see people hyped for all kinds of different ideas, it's just that Scythe seems the more likely answer.

Personally I don't mind what it is, as long as it's implemented well and fun to play, but I am pretty surprised that there is still relatively few people who think it's a job based on Sice from Type-0. Like, normally you see people try to find jobs or characters from other Final Fantasy games to fit into the hints, yet why isn't that generally the case for Sice? Like, she uses a scythe and is pretty much seen as a grim reaper, what could make it a more obvious than that? Not saying it will be that, but surprised it's not the go-to prediction. Ran'jit even uses his scythe one-handed, which is very odd and something you specifically see Sice doing. Since they introduced a scythe for an enemy, and even made specific animations for it, I doubt they would just not use that for other things too, and it won't be a job based on Ran'jit, because it would make no sense that Zenos would just copy him (Zenos has basically been confirmed to take on the new job).

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Originally Posted by Kesey

After catching up on this thread, I'm now concerned that we will have another male Viera or dancer as healer problem, if the new melee dps isn't a scythe wielder.
The community needs to temper themselves and remember Yoshi-p is going to Yoshi-p, so lets just be pleasantly surprised no matter what it is.

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It's two different things and by a margin.
Viera were promised and it was revealed that it would only be half the race, the other half being male Hrothgar which i don't think many asked for.
The DNC situation wasn't DNC itself, it was the community expecting a new healer because SB had 2 DPS. And DNC being a supportive job in most FF.
The announcement was also at the time they announced Viera female only and BLU being a limited job. On top of that, there was very accurate leaks which raised people expectation but that's another subject.
Viera were a promise half-filled, Dancer was a logical expectation. They failed to communicate so the community expectation would be set to a certain target.

As for the Scythe Wielder? If it's not then what? You won't see anyone whine about not getting a Scythe Wielder, we might see a very small group being disappointed. Next DPS being a Reaper is a theory as solid as water, we don't have proof.
But for now, the promise is a melee DPS using Dragoon Armors and the hints are those two shirts.
The difference now is the expectation and the promise. They communicated during the last Liveletter to set the expectation and promised a melee DPS.

Dragoon armor class would make sense considering all other classes share an armor class except for Dragoons which are standalone.

Only thing we know about the new DPS class is that it will be melee oriented. Could be anything really. Could be beastmaster, berserker somehow?, could do a necromancer(if Yoshida hints stuff through attire then maybe), could be based on a FF character like Gunbreaker was.

I'm expecting a Melee/Magic hybrid that is more Melee focused.

For all we know we might get something unexpected for a Melee unit like Geomancer.

Thus far especially with Sage not being like the usual Sage class we have a Garlean influence on their kit that reminds me of Spiritmaster/Devout and taking inspiration from XIV's boss Aulus Mal Asina from the Ala Mhigo dungeon.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

It's two different things and by a margin.
As for the Scythe Wielder? If it's not then what? You won't see anyone whine about not getting a Scythe Wielder, we might see a very small group being disappointed. Next DPS being a Reaper is a theory as solid as water, we don't have proof.
But for now, the promise is a melee DPS using Dragoon Armors and the hints are those two shirts.
The difference now is the expectation and the promise. They communicated during the last Liveletter to set the expectation and promised a melee DPS.

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Eh... there's been demand for a scythe user and/or necro for literal years now. People exploded when the Heroes Gauntlet had a Necro pseudo warrior of light as a boss. People have convinced themselves they've seen a scythe leaning on Zenos' throne (even though if Zenos does get a scythe, which is unconfirmed, it has no connection at all with whether or not the player will get one). People have convinced themselves that YoshiP's shirts* confirm a scythe/necro. People have even continued to try to puzzle out just how a melee DPS necro will work because they just can't give up on the new class being a necro (especially if it uses a scythe!!1!). Sure nothing has actually been directly stated/promised but to say it's just a small group of mildly disappointed people I think that's a pretty deliberate undersell. Maybe it's not a majority, but there's definitely a large portion of people who have convinced themselves we're getting a scythe user regardless of what the devs have said/done.

* Note that everyone keeps saying Two Shirts but the Children of Bodom shirt was NOT worn during the Expansion reveal. It was worn during the 5.5 Live Letter. Again, people have convinced themselves the two are connected when they aren't necessarily connected at all.

Back on the first shirt, what if the grim reaper was a reference to Hades (god of death/underworld etc) ? You think this could lead anywhere ?