Gender locked race?

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Aye; the issue I have with this chap is that he's certainly not the authority on Viera - sure he knows the information but that's that.

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Well, he kind of is...

The character in question is the stand in for the guy who is responsible for Ivalice and he's famous for telling stories that have depth and fit together very smoothly. His words carry immense weight no matter the form they take where Ivalice is concerned...especially if he agrees with Yoshi-P or simply doesn't want to see Viera men show up for some other reason.

Maybe he simply doesn't want the dispel the mystery surrounding them?

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Originally Posted by Alesone

The lore isn't there as an excuse to exclude male Viera, it's there as an explanation as why we won't see any. There's a nuance there people can't seem to grasp. If male viera aren't happening, their decisions for doing such are certainly not just the "lore" even if they try to say that, there's certainly a different reason behind the decision. If it happens, we'll see what they have to say about why they went that direction (if they do).

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When has lore applied to the player? Canonically there's like three white mages in existence, but there's nothing stopping anyone from becoming one.

Dark knights? Lore-wise there's even fewer of them.

Male Miqo'te are supposed to be rare af, but no one in-game pats an eye to seeing dozens of them in any city-state. And the gay Nuhns. So many gay Nuhns.

Or going back to the Au Ra example, Sidguru's people were fired on by Ishgardian's, but a player who's an Au Ra isn't even touched upon.

It's almost like the players race and job doesn't have any effect on Lore and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Well, he kind of is...

The character in question is the stand in for the guy who is responsible for Ivalice and he's famous for telling stories that have depth and fit together very smoothly. His words carry immense weight no matter the form they take where Ivalice is concerned...especially if he agrees with Yoshi-P or simply doesn't want to see Viera men show up for some other reason.

Maybe he simply doesn't want the dispel the mystery surrounding them?

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Aye, I know who he's based off of. xD The issue right now is the character is portrayed as not being the authority as only those who pay attention actually know who this guy is. If we take his words for the weight that they have then people should also take into consideration that he talks in past tense and has implied that things have changed considerably. Like how a Viera leaving their home is no longer seen as an outcast. A sign that WoL Viera won't be looked at in a foul light once they return to the wood.

As for him not seeing them; that's down to his past adventuring and seeking of information - that has also changed since he's been part of the company now with his elegant wifu. So, back then when he was adventuring? Of course, now? Things have changed at least for the females. The males are a mystery which can be taken both ways by his words.


To me, it sounded like they were going to introduce them. After years of no sign of them and only lore - that's a huge leap for all fans who enjoyed the Ivalice games, not just FF14. I'm not excited, and my hopes are tamed, but I like to think that we're not going to go into the gender locked route.

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Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu

Or going back to the Au Ra example, Sidguru's people were fired on by Ishgardian's, but a player who's an Au Ra isn't even touched upon.

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Although oddly enough, Sidurgu himself is able to stay in the city, and even have a confrontation with a Halonic priestess without being slain on sight.

Unless it's explained at some point in the 60-70 quests, it seems at odds with the rest of his story. Not saying there's something suspicious about it, just maybe an oversight by the writers.


Generally though, I would have to imagine an Auri Warrior of Light having a harder time fitting into Ishgard than the others. (But then nobody in Gridania showed their usual prejudice regarding Duskwights towards my alt character, either.)

The joys of generic script writing....

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Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu

When has lore applied to the player? Canonically there's like three white mages in existence, but there's nothing stopping anyone from becoming one.

Dark knights? Lore-wise there's even fewer of them.

Male Miqo'te are supposed to be rare af, but no one in-game pats an eye to seeing dozens of them in any city-state. And the gay Nuhns. So many gay Nuhns.

Or going back to the Au Ra example, Sidguru's people were fired on by Ishgardian's, but a player who's an Au Ra isn't even touched upon.

It's almost like the players race and job doesn't have any effect on Lore and vice versa.

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You aren't grasping the nuance. The lore doesn't dictate anything, the developers do. They use the lore as a tool to explain what we see/experience in the game and provide a more natural sense of cohesion with the setting and story. The Viera lore isn't there to be used as an excuse to say players can't be male Viera, it's there to explain when we're running around why we don't see any.

The lore didn't decide that players couldn't be male Viera, the developers did, they just put in lore that will bridge the gap to explaining in setting why we don't see any.

Your argument is like saying why can't we play as beast tribe characters then, they're capable of all the things we are as player characters. Or how about Garleans? Why can't we play as them?

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Originally Posted by Alesone

Your argument is like saying why can't we play as beast tribe characters then, they're capable of all the things we are as player characters. Or how about Garleans? Why can't we play as them?

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I think that's a different issue. Male Viera are made (potentially) unplayable because of their individual race-lore that states they don't go out of the forest.

Garleans and beastmen aren't playable for world-lore issues. Both would make for particularly awkward storywriting when the Warrior of Light is "generic" and the script is the same regardless of race (except for the occasional nod) as their races are in direct conflict with the protagonists.

Either people completely ignore your 'interesting' race choice, or the script gets derailed every few levels as you try to explain (yet again) why you're not a Garlean spy or a marauding beastman who, at very least, needs to be driven out of the city immediately.


Even with the races we already have, you already get these awkward moments where the writers ignore your race. Buscarron explains the idea of Duskwights... to my Duskwight. Wildwood archers would bear the brunt of Silvairre's snobbery that only Wildwoods are true archers. Yugiri will insist she needs to hide her face, even to another Au Ra.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I think that's a different issue. Male Viera are made (potentially) unplayable because of their individual race-lore that states they don't go out of the forest.

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No, Male Viera are potentially made unplayable because of the decision of the director of the game. Whether it's his personal hangups in finding them unappealing, or his desire to put in a male player race that he thinks people would like more, or that he likes more. The lore has little to do with it because the lore can always be written to accommodate their development decisions.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Garleans and beastmen aren't playable for world-lore issues. Both would make for particularly awkward storywriting when the Warrior of Light is "generic" and the script is the same regardless of race (except for the occasional nod) as their races are in direct conflict with the protagonists.

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Except for all the ones we actively work with? All the Garleans we've now associated with, some of which were direct enemies before. All the Beast tribe quests we undertake that deals with members of those races who are in no way in direct conflict with us. There's absolutely avenues the devs could take to make these things playable, but the reality is they can't or won't. Those decisions come first, and the lore is made to adapt to those decisions. Same thing with male viera.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Actually; can anyone confirm regarding the lore of the male Viera and if there's more lore on the male compared to other races that exist right now?

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With regards to gendered lore or lore in general?

Off the top of my head the only race that has a decent amount of gender specific info are Miqo'te. After them theres male highlanders (and their reasons for the lack of eyebrows) and a couple of Xaela tribes traditions. If you mean general lore Duskies, Keepers, and Raen are pretty lacking lore-wise. I'd say we have a better idea of what a male Viera's life will be like in comparison to the average Raen or Duskwight but not to an "overall" race.

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Originally Posted by Alesone

No, Male Viera are potentially made unplayable because of the decision of the director of the game. Whether it's his personal hangups in finding them unappealing, or his desire to put in a male player race that he thinks people would like more, or that he likes more. The lore has little to do with it because the lore can always be written to accommodate their development decisions.

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I know that's the *actual* reason why they're (probably) not playable, but that decision still needs to be "excused" within the story to explain why we don't see them, even though they do exist.

The "excuse" for not being able to play as a male Viera would be the race's individual lore, brought into the story alongside the race itself.

The "excuse" for not being able to play as a Garlean or beastman is the overarching story, pre-established in ARR as being "us against them", so the script would be strange if the generic player-character is in fact one of "them".

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Originally Posted by Alesone

Except for all the ones we actively work with? All the Garleans we've now associated with, some of which were direct enemies before. All the Beast tribe quests we undertake that deals with members of those races who are in no way in direct conflict with us. There's absolutely avenues the devs could take to make these things playable, but the reality is they can't or won't. Those decisions come first, and the lore is made to adapt to those decisions. Same thing with male viera.

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There's a difference between having individual characters who are Garleans or beastman, and letting the player be one.

The other characters are "unchanging" - Cid is always Cid, he's always a Garlean and the script reflects that.

But if the Warrior of Light might be a Garlean or might not, that's different. There would either need to be a separate version of dialogue to acknowledge it, or something that should affect how people respond to you goes entirely ignored.


As I said, it's already an issue in minor ways with the currently playable races - but for Garleans or beastmen, it would be a lot worse.

I think Alesone's point is a good one to make. If they genderlock this race they are probably going to point towards the lore and say that it's the reason why and their hands are tied, but it's a decision on the part of the developers. Lore isn't written in a vacuum.

A lot of people are already saying iterations of "male viera can't happen because it wouldn't make lore sense". Even if we're ignoring all the other ways the game plays fast and loose with its lore, this lore is brand new, never seen before this raid, and released for the very first time while the viera were already well into development. This is why they considered male viera long enough to create concept art of them for heavensward. I just want people to keep this in mind if they say males are out of the question and try to use the lore as the reason. They have the choice and ability to implement them. The lore was built around decisions the development team already made, whether they're added or not.

Worst part is, if they're indeed genderlocked, why not say it upfront? why not change the lore to simply state male viera don't exist in this iteration and be done with it? they KNOW people want male viera, but confirming they exist only for us to never be able to create one "because lore" just feels...wrong.

PS: I'm in the minority that would love a bara cat race, but even if it's the most gloriously fluffy race yet, I'd still feel bad it was made at the expense of something people have been requesting for years.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Worst part is, if they're indeed genderlocked, why not say it upfront? why not change the lore to simply state male viera don't exist in this iteration and be done with it? they KNOW people want male viera, but confirming they exist only for us to never be able to create one "because lore" just feels...wrong.

PS: I'm in the minority that would love a bara cat race, but even if it's the most gloriously fluffy race yet, I'd still feel bad it was made at the expense of something people have been requesting for years.

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SE hasn't had qualms with saying such things in the past with Galka/Ananta (ik Ananta are a beast race but they had no issues saying they were female only with their reveal) so if they wanted to discredit any hopes of males they could've just omitted them completely and have a galka situation of where they are born from the wood and all perceived as female.

FFXIV is the first game to have male Viera mentioned within itself, FFXII only had them mentioned in supplementary material not within the game itself male Viera weren't a thing in the Ivalice setting until this and is something that could have been easily left out of FFXIV. They could've easily omitted anything regarding male Viera from 4.5 as by then they would have known full well if it was gender locked and i like to believe they would know adding anything regarding them would be giving false hope to people and they wouldn't want to do that.

The dramaturge is deliberately vague enough that his words can go either way with regarding male Viera now i do not know what the other languages are like regarding male Viera so i can only speak for the English client there. I'm going to air on the side of caution i want bunbois never going to deny that but how they have acted has me confused as a customer so i'm not getting my hopes up too high

Yeah I would get your hype up for everything else and then if male Viera come it's a pleasant surprise hype. Of course I know this thread will start burning if they announce no male Viera lol..

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Yeah I would get your hype up for everything else and then if male Viera come it's a pleasant surprise hype. Of course I know this thread will start burning if they announce no male Viera lol..

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burn with the rage of a 1000 suns

I don't see why people keep citing lore as to why we can't get male Viera. Male Mi'qote have nearly the same issue but are possibly the most played male character race in the game. Many times it has been stated in previous lore panels that the WoL stands apart from lore restrictions. There is only one WoL but a few million players, the WoL is a Male Highlander and has always been... until he fantasias into a Lalafell female... which she has always been according to all npc's. Point being, lore can be rewritten, player demand will see to that.

Lol we know. We know the lore is the same for male Miqo and there aren't any white mages/dark knights etc. Every time someone makes a lore post the exact same opposite lore post is made. If male Viera don't show up it'll be because the dev team said so.

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Lol we know. We know the lore is the same for male Miqo and there aren't any white mages/dark knights etc. Every time someone makes a lore post the exact same opposite lore post is made. If male Viera don't show up it'll be because the dev team said so.

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Until they are repeatedly hammered at until they eventually give in. Even if it's not for male Viera then certainly for female Hrothgar; unless they're going to make the lore for them 'Females don't exist; they sprout from the ground.'

Yeah, I fully expect anyone who wants male Viera to rise up against the man. I was just saying complaining about the lore posts with opposite lore posts is something we have seen like 5x by now and really it's the dev team's whims as to what will happen not the lore.

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Lol we know. We know the lore is the same for male Miqo and there aren't any white mages/dark knights etc. Every time someone makes a lore post the exact same opposite lore post is made. If male Viera don't show up it'll be because the dev team said so.

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All I see is someone just said the lore is evidence the dev team said "no" to male Viera. This is hard to understand for some reason, and then you get people going on about "but the lore!", white mages and miqo'te even though that's got nothing to do with what was argued in the first place.

I think people are just saying that using the lore as justification for excluding the race isn't a good excuse. You're supposed to be the only white mage of your generation when you can't walk down the street in Kugane without bumping into 6 others. Male miqote are supposed to be several times rarer than the females because of a lower birth rate, and yet you'll find numerous shirtless ones afk in every zone in the game.


So them trying to tell us, "oh, we didn't want to make male Viera playable because it conflicts with the lore" is a lie. :v They must have their reasons, no doubt, but no one is going to buy that one if they try to spin it that way. I won't at least.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I think people are just saying that using the lore as justification for excluding the race isn't a good excuse. You're supposed to be the only white mage of your generation when you can't walk down the street in Kugane without bumping into 6 others. Male miqote are supposed to be several times rarer than the females because of a lower birth rate, and yet you'll find numerous shirtless ones afk in every zone in the game.


So them trying to tell us, "oh, we didn't want to make male Viera playable because it conflicts with the lore" is a lie. :v They must have their reasons, no doubt, but no one is going to buy that one if they try to spin it that way. I won't at least.

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Lol yeah, so let's just drop this lore stuff since people who agree with it agree with it and people who don't, don't. No reason to have the same opposing posts ad nauseam throughout the thread. Even if they don't specifically state reasons for whatever they do, they did it because they wanted to do it. Simple.

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Lol yeah, so let's just drop this lore stuff since people who agree with it agree with it and people who don't, don't. No reason to have the same opposing posts ad nauseam throughout the thread. Even if they don't specifically state reasons for whatever they do, they did it because they wanted to do it. Simple.

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The main issue is that when asked about male Viera, Yoshi P said to look at the lore that was in the game.
SE might ignore the lore in some cases, but in others they don't, it's pretty hit and miss, but here we have an indication that the lore is being followed.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The main issue is that when asked about male Viera, Yoshi P said to look at the lore that was in the game.
SE might ignore the lore in some cases, but in others they don't, it's pretty hit and miss, but here we have an indication that the lore is being followed.

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Doesn't mean gender-locking tho. He could simply meant that we can check the lore to see if male viera exists, which the lore did say.
From what I remember, the interviewer asked about how male viera's gonna appear, and he said to check the lore.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I think people are just saying that using the lore as justification for excluding the race isn't a good excuse. You're supposed to be the only white mage of your generation when you can't walk down the street in Kugane without bumping into 6 others. Male miqote are supposed to be several times rarer than the females because of a lower birth rate, and yet you'll find numerous shirtless ones afk in every zone in the game.


So them trying to tell us, "oh, we didn't want to make male Viera playable because it conflicts with the lore" is a lie. :v They must have their reasons, no doubt, but no one is going to buy that one if they try to spin it that way. I won't at least.

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This. As I've said before, they might try to use lore as an EXCUSE for why they don't make male Viera.

But the actual REASON for it will be something else. Whether that ends up being 'we haven't seen them before and want to keep that mystery' or 'Yoshi P thinks male bunnies look weird and said no' or 'we want to make two different races to appeal to differing demographics and can't do that without gender locking' the actual reason will not be the lore. The write the lore, they could have written the lore differently if they wanted male Viera in. And the lore we HAVE doesn't even explain it when we have male Keepers and all these white mages running around.

Hey look, the exact same two posts came up again.

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Hey look, the exact same two posts came up again.

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Just 10 more days to go. XD

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The main issue is that when asked about male Viera, Yoshi P said to look at the lore that was in the game.
SE might ignore the lore in some cases, but in others they don't, it's pretty hit and miss, but here we have an indication that the lore is being followed.

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I doubt they actively ignore it in any case. It's simply that in most scenarios where a job or, say, a gender/race combination is rare, other players are not taken canonically as existing for the purposes of this. Just a few of those adventurers you meet will actually exist but because it's an MMO they can't be more specific than that.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Although oddly enough, Sidurgu himself is able to stay in the city, and even have a confrontation with a Halonic priestess without being slain on sight.

Unless it's explained at some point in the 60-70 quests, it seems at odds with the rest of his story. Not saying there's something suspicious about it, just maybe an oversight by the writers.


Generally though, I would have to imagine an Auri Warrior of Light having a harder time fitting into Ishgard than the others. (But then nobody in Gridania showed their usual prejudice regarding Duskwights towards my alt character, either.)

The joys of generic script writing....

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Indeed. It is a shame.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

The main issue is that when asked about male Viera, Yoshi P said to look at the lore that was in the game.
SE might ignore the lore in some cases, but in others they don't, it's pretty hit and miss, but here we have an indication that the lore is being followed.

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But why write the lore in that way to begin with?

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

But why write the lore in that way to begin with?

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Well, for Miqote and Viera, those are just carry overs from 11 and 12 respectively. That's how the races worked in those games.

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Originally Posted by Alesone

The same dialogue from the Dramaturge nips that in the bud a bit though. It heavily implies that no male ventures outside of the woods. He says he's never seen, nor known anyone who has, seen a male Viera in the largest city hub nearest to their territory. We know females who venture out wind up there enough to make up a percentage of the population, but he states none of them are males.

Anything is possible but they're definitely laying groundwork to explain why we probably won't see any male Viera. No NPC's or anything. There's little reason for them to paint the absence of male viera in such adamant language that states they are never seen outside of the woods, and even if you go looking for them in the woods you won't find them either. They're that rare/elusive.

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That same NPC, however, explained how things are changing within the Viera culture, laying the groundwork as to why we will start seeing them now when we never have before. Consider that if you take the lore 100% at face value, we should have already been seeing them in the world, yet Fran is the first one we're run into. If things are changing for the females, if they're starting to abandon their villages, then the males will follow. There will be less of a reason to protect the jungle if the people they were there to protect are gone.

Some will stay to protect the actual jungle viewing that as their cause, others will leave to be with the females who left and/or to protect them specifically. It's not entirely unlike the colonization of the Americas. Initially it was just the men venturing out into the unknown, but the women soon followed after. If the roles were reversed and the women started to settle in a new area, the men would follow suit as well. Societies need both to survive, and it's not strange to think that if the female viera are starting to branch off of their path that they won't also peel off some males with them.

Until the developers say that it's confirmed not happening, it's too soon for any of us to be so certain it's not as well. I can see why they wouldn't, but I also think it's better that they do introduce it, and obviously am in the camp of those who think it will happen.

Edit: also as a bit of a teaser, Yoshi was asked directly at one of the EU interviews "how are you going to introduce male Viera into FFXIV?" and he didn't state then that they weren't, but that the question would be answered in Japan. Granted that answer might be "we're not" but it seems more of a hint as to they are to me.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Until they are repeatedly hammered at until they eventually give in. Even if it's not for male Viera then certainly for female Hrothgar; unless they're going to make the lore for them 'Females don't exist; they sprout from the ground.'

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If it doesn't fit their vision for the game, they simply won't do it no matter how often they receive requests. I don't doubt that the recent change in the Terms of Service is, to some degree, intended to mitigate such things. Especially given how many chose to react to Eureka and BLU.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Edit: also as a bit of a teaser, Yoshi was asked directly at one of the EU interviews "how are you going to introduce male Viera into FFXIV?" and he didn't state then that they weren't, but that the question would be answered in Japan. Granted that answer might be "we're not" but it seems more of a hint as to they are to me.

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To accurately quote... here's directly from the thread. Q12: Fans are very excited that Viera is a new race but I think that fans are hoping that we’ll also get the male Viera as a playable character. Can you comment on that? Or even if they’re going to be NPCs if not, or if we have to wait until Tokyo Fan Fest? A12: That’s true we do still have the Tokyo Fan Fest ahead of us. zips mouth

Seems to me that the question was a leading question and Yoshi ran with it and gave a non-answer. aka he was given the "out" of JP fanfest and used it. Not that he specifically said "that will be answered in Japan"

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Edit: also as a bit of a teaser, Yoshi was asked directly at one of the EU interviews "how are you going to introduce male Viera into FFXIV?" and he didn't state then that they weren't, but that the question would be answered in Japan. Granted that answer might be "we're not" but it seems more of a hint as to they are to me.

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You seem to be misremembering or willfully ignoring what he actually said in that interview.

Q: The question everyone got the most excited for at yesterday's press Q&A was the male vieras. Since it's you, Yoshida, we think there'll be male vieras. But in FFXII, male vieras are extremely rare and never appear. How are you going to introduce them into FFXIV?

A: Who knows? I'm a contrarian, so when you say "Yoshida would definitely do this", it makes me not want to answer *laughs* Actually, in the Return to Ivalice story that concluded the other day, there's a ton of lore about vieras in FFXIV. We coordinated with Matsuno-san to include most of the hints there, so please check that. Matsuno-san wrote wonderful texts for us.

From this interview

The fact he stated he is a contrarian (when most often, he absolutely is not a contrarian when it comes to how he's come off and what he does) when the interviewer said they felt yoshida was certainly going to give players male Viera should raise plenty of red flags. For those who may not know, contrarian is defined as "opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice." So if Yoshida says he's a contrarian when it comes to male viera, and the popular opinion is that male viera are coming, this leads one to believe he's going to go against the grain regarding male viera. Backed up with his history of being averse to concept of male viera, it's actually further evidence they probably aren't coming. He also said nothing about answering that in Japan fanfest in that interview and diverted to the lore, which we've established paints male viera in a light that they won't even be encountered in NPC form.

I really think he was just playing around with that contrarian comment. He was just making fun of the question since it was such a big assumption. I seriously doubt he would go against what the playerbase wants just to avoid doing something they expect him to. That would just be silly. Yoshi does care about the playerbase even if he goofs up occasionally. He wouldn't do something out of spite like that.


And when asked about male Viera directly, he said to wait for Japan fanfest. That could mean a lot of things. He didn't dismiss the idea. I think if we weren't getting them he would have clarified it right then. He has to know an open ended answer like that would make people get their hopes up. I think there is more to the situation than we're seeing.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I think if we weren't getting them he would have clarified it right then.

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Except if he wants to do a surprise reveal of a new race? If he confirmed male viera aren't coming then people would be expecting something as a substitute. He would obviously try to avoid spoiling something that would have been a pretty big surprise if it weren't for leaks.

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Originally Posted by Alesone

Except if he wants to do a surprise reveal of a new race? If he confirmed male viera aren't coming then people would be expecting something as a substitute. He would obviously try to avoid spoiling something that would have been a pretty big surprise if it weren't for leaks.

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Would he want to set people up with misplaced expectations though? I just find it hard to believe he didn't realize how risky it would be letting the playerbase think "oh, cool we're probably getting male Viera!" just to be told at the next fanfest, "oh hey, guess what? You're not getting male Viera. But you can have this entirely different race we thought up that you didn't ask for and didn't know anything about till right this moment instead. Please look forward to it."


Sounds like a recipe for disaster. I know SE fumbles a lot, but I'd think Yoshi himself would know better than to pull something like that. :v I could be wrong though, he could have done an oppsie. I just find it hard to believe.

He just deflected the question with a cutesy vague answer so he wouldn't upset the audience since gender is a super hot button topic in the west right now. He also said BLU would be unbalanced since they could use LVL 5 Death on bosses even though everyone of them is immune to status effects and that Eureka was made for a small group of hardcore nostalgic players only when it was sold as a defining feature shown at the 2017 fanfests so yeah, he says silly things in interviews.

Love the optimism tho but maybe you should act like you hate male viera since he's a "contrarian".

The only misplaced expectations are from those who picture Viera men as being completely different to how they're described. Furthermore, although this thread is very active it isn't at all a reflection of the overall community. From what I've seen elsewhere, most people don't feel strongly about the subject. Viera were always presented as a female only race and whilst it would be nice to see the men in FFXIV, there's no guarantee that it'll happen.

Furthermore, if Hrothgar are added then they'll serve as a counterpart to Viera. They may not be to everybody's tastes, though they'll have their fans. They may even end up being better than Viera men - which isn't a hard feat given how some players are picturing them...

Ultimately, so long as they're not child-like I'll be content.

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Originally Posted by JamiaHaab

He just deflected the question with a cutesy vague answer so he wouldn't upset the audience since gender is a super hot button topic in the west right now. He also said BLU would be unbalanced since they could use LVL 5 Death on bosses even though everyone of them is immune to status effects and that Eureka was made for a small group of hardcore nostalgic players only when it was sold as a defining feature shown at the 2017 fanfests so yeah, he says silly things in interviews.

Love the optimism tho but maybe you should act like you hate male viera since he's a "contrarian".

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I really don't think gender being a hot topic in the west has anything at all to do with his answer. If they cared about hot topics in the west they wouldn't have introduced the female Viera with a video of them giggling in armor lingerie. :v

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I really don't think gender being a hot topic in the west has anything at all to do with his answer. If they cared about hot topics in the west they wouldn't have introduced the female Viera with a video of them giggling in armor lingerie. :v

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Lol, come on man. It's literally Fran's outfit. Like Fran is the reason Viera are popular, and they gave Viera her outfit as their starter outfit because it's a homage FF game.