So, how is Pagos?

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Originally Posted by Velhart

The train was not intentional. Pagos is working as intended. It is just not fun.

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And as you said,the intentional way is just not fun at all,chore at best,tortur at worst.they really messed up.

I don't really like Pagos, but I'm going to try to finish it for the sake of the relic and the minimal story we get. I guess I'm just going to do the challenge log then leave until the next reset.

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

Pagos needs the train. It’s horrible with out it. I hate it so much.

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Y̶o̶u̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶I̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶P̶a̶g̶o̶s̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶e̶d̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶u̶h̶h̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶n̶g̶e̶d̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶i̶t̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶u̶p̶p̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶g̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶r̶t̶e̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶M̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶w̶n̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶s̶.̶ ̶A̶l̶s̶o̶,̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶a̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶a̶g̶o̶s̶ ̶C̶r̶y̶s̶t̶a̶l̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶d̶r̶o̶p̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶ ̶a̶ ̶l̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶.̶ ̶A̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶'̶m̶ ̶g̶o̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶1̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶s̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶r̶f̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶.̶

EDIT: They actually reduced the number of monsters to spawn NM's per the Japanese patch notes. LONG LIVE THE TRAIN! xD

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...71e766d37f038b

Waiting to see how the adjustments work out. I'm cautiously optimistic at this point, but this is hardly going to solve the biggest problems with Pagos. If anything, this is another bandage. I just hope it's a bandage that will stay in place long enough for me to finish the one relic item I'm interested in.

I'll wait a day (or a few hours, depending) before entering Pagos. If the NM spawn rate is back to how it was in Anemos, then I'll board the train.

Just spent two hours in Pagos. The train is viable once again and I got a level and a half in that time. I'll continue at it, but for those who like Anemos, Pagos is much the same now. Just, with different terrain and dragons to avoid.

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

Just spent two hours in Pagos. The train is viable once again and I got a level and a half in that time. I'll continue at it, but for those who like Anemos, Pagos is much the same now. Just, with different terrain and dragons to avoid.

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And such things in need of tweaking, sch as the northwest aetheryte needing to be brought down to a lv27 requirement, light from mobs and NMs being handed a lift, even a minor one, and Pagos Crystals needing some enhancement (not too much, I don't think?).

Yeah, it's still a very big problem that the MMs between 26-30 are in the northwestern corner, but you can't actually access the aetheryte until 30. The train gets diluted in the center of the map due to all of the dragons and random aggro varieties of nearby enemies. This was a problem before the train, but now it's even more noticeable when you're trying to rush. And now they're basically trying to say that trains are okay now, but they still have all of the chokepoints. It's very awkward and screams, "we don't know what we want you to do!"

Well, looks like the train is sorta returned. Now play nice again.

Think I am done with bunnies. This has made me hate bunnies. Not solely the fact that I am not getting gold, but other people are not getting gold either. In the last ten days of doing this after I reached 35 I have only see six people get gold. There is a very low quantity eyes on market boards. I do not understand the reasoning to make things so rare with patch 4.4 Patch in 3-4 weeks. People will not go back to Pagos to do bunnies just like people barely go back into Rival Wings all but once a week which will take some people at that rate over year to get Rival Wings mount. Not saying I want things handed to me, just that there is no incentive to waste my time getting peanuts when I can do other things that i enjoy.