Moving will be made to interrupt spellcasting at a point in time...

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

I do not use /facetarget and I do not wish too. However, if I move, as soon as I stop I try to cast something.... oh but wait! The server has to catch up with me. lol Usually I can't cast immediately after stopping, so I am waiting for my spell to happen, then realize it hasn't gone off... lol. Then I have to click it again. =p I know in time I will be used to the wait, but this is what I'm talking about and how it conflicts with us casters.

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/facetarget is the temporary solution for the exact problem you're complaining about. If you refuse to use it for whatever reason, you shouldn't really be complaining at all. And a white mage that clicks spells... maybe there are other reasons why you're having issues playing effectively....

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Originally Posted by Shiggysonson

/facetarget is the temporary solution for the exact problem you're complaining about. If you refuse to use it for whatever reason, you shouldn't really be complaining at all. And a white mage that clicks spells... maybe there are other reasons why you're having issues playing effectively....

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yeah the issue is horrible servers and bad design and programming in putting it in game. hey, if that's the excuse of why everything the original team put in that didn't work right then it fits here too.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

I dont use /facetarget either since I use a controller but like I said it takes very little time to register your character has stopped moving. If I can do it without issue and still be great at healing and have a 12 pack in me I'm sure most people can do it as well it just takes getting used to and remembering to not rely on casting being the thing that stops you, watch the arrows for a bit to help ya out. Its just an adjustment period.

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Well, maybe I'm mistaken, but isn't it like this now?

Example: A melee and a mage both start running from point A to point B. When they get to point B, the melee will be able to use a weaponskill as soon as they get there, or even before. A mage however, cannot cast before they get to point B and when they get to point B they either have to use /facetarget or wait a bit longer than a melee would have to, to use a weaponskill, before a mage can begin casting. Then, when a mage is able to cast and does so, that too takes casting time, whereas a weaponskill is used automatically. <--- Shiggysonson this is why it feels a little unfair to me.

Edit: Example with full MP, full TP, and no instant spellcasting spells.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

I like how you compare a before and after with two different subjects. Ifrit is still just as challenging as it was before. If chimera dungeon was out before this casting change, people would STILL be in that same spot with or without this change.

You are delusional if you think otherwise.

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I should be surprise at who is trying so hard to rip my posts apart, but sadly not, as you are that predictable. You are definitely white knighting this change really hard, and for what bewildering reasons? As you have not brought one good point about what this change brings and the impact on future content.

Same subject, don't know how you draw the conclusion any differently, unless you are reallllly reaching for one.

I doubt it is just coincidence, that Ifrit was released when you could move freely and eruptions could happen anywhere, yet when Chimera is released, coinciding with the 'movement will interrupt spellcast' gives you 0 reason to ever move.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

You also have stone that has a chance to cast heavy on the target. You also have stoneskin that can stop damage. You have regen that can cure you without you casting a spell. You also have benediction for instant full hp (just because).

And who's to know what will happen with some of our current moves when PvP comes out?

I could TOTALLY see shroud of saints causing us to dissapear until using an action or keeps you invisible for 10 sec. Plus we are also going to be getting more actions/spells/abilities later too. You have to look in the future when the future comes out. You can't talk about PvP based on just the skills we have now

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For someone who likes to use technicality a lot... Wrong!

Naruto can even cast spells while running :/

Liked your post Kuma! Made me laugh. :D

Anyways, this will go in circles. Ultimately, I would like a straight answer from Yoshi if this thread even has a purpose anymore, and if he is even willing to change his mind. Otherwise, those who want this change, and who doesn't can spend their energy elsewhere.

(In before DeadRiser champions in, claiming he/she has a grandmother who knows a cousin, who knows a daughter, who knows a friend whom that friend knows another friend, that works at SE and knows the answer to this question.)

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Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia

Right, because the Chimera battle looks so much more challenging since it rewards static position for all minus the tank.
So lets recap...

Before spellcast movement - Battles such as Ifrit that forces you to move as eruptions can happen anywhere on the map.
After spellcast movement - Battles such as Chimera whose equivalent of eruptions/plume are static on the map.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWmKi...layer_embedded

If you consider content based staying in one space to cast spells, you are delusional.

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You can't really say for sure that the lack of changing positions in the chimera fight is due to the spellcasting change. If it is though, I really hope they realize that they can still have fights like ifrit even with this change.

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Originally Posted by Shiggysonson

You can't really say for sure that the lack of changing positions in the chimera fight is due to the spellcasting change. If it is though, I really hope they realize that they can still have fights like ifrit even with this change.

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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia

I should be surprise at who is trying so hard to rip my posts apart, but sadly not, as you are that predictable. You are definitely white knighting this change really hard, and for what bewildering reasons? As you have not brought one good point about what this change brings and the impact on future content.

Same subject, don't know how you draw the conclusion any differently, unless you are reallllly reaching for one.

I doubt it is just coincidence, that Ifrit was released when you could move freely and eruptions could happen anywhere, yet when Chimera is released, coinciding with the 'movement will interrupt spellcast' gives you 0 reason to ever move.

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I'm not whiteknighting the change or anything. I'm just agreeing with what Yoshi said FOREVER ago. It makes sense why they are doing it. MMO's are still coming out with this in mind. I agree with what Yoshi put, so I shouldn't have to reiterate that long post he typed. It makes sense to me. You can't expect every fight to be a replica of Ifrit. Chimera is good, and there are spots where you can get hit all over the place. People figured out the cycle already, and that's why it's basicly no movement whatsoever. Did you try it before everyone figured it out? I'm sure you would have ran all over the place


And I was talking about casting regen before the fight, like White Mages do before the fight...