The pressure to skip cut-scenes!

I love viewing cutscenes in dungeons. And everybody can stuff it. Also for the viewers saying you can view all the cutscenes in your inn room, you are wrong. Only some of them are up there. There are cutscenes you can only view in a dungeon, particularly midfight.

I love being a tank because without me, they rush ahead, they die very quickly so its no skin off my back.

There's only a few times I skip scenes, like ifirt hardmode, and thats because once you see it once you seen it a million times. Other then that though, forget about it.

Thankfully i didn't had this problem yet.To bo honest, i don't mind new players that want to see the CSs AT ALL .Players who are rude saying that you have to skip the CS have a serious problem, as some other players said in this thread, if this rushers don't want newbies on their party, why the hell are they using the DF? we will never know.

I watched cutscenes and after said scene, I had to sprint others to catch them. But they didn't lash out on me.
Even on final one when I was watching cutscenes, without listening full voice acting (speed reader), they actually thanked me for it.
Altought I wish I had time to listen it all, japanese voice acting is so neat.

I skipped most of them aside from a certain few. I just couldn't get drawn into the story like some of you could sadly it seems.

If experienced groups are taking a player who is new to the dungeon then they need to be prepared to make allowances or don't take new players. It's really that simple.

Personally, when I do runs I make it an effort to let people view the cut scenes. I know that I dislike being rushed and interrupted when viewing said cut scenes so why should I do it to others?
I also make sure that everyone is there/ready before engaging the boss. Granted, I have yet to do much endgame but I don't think my attitude will change even when I get to that stage.

I love this thread. 2 people, name " The Dragoon " and " Final Fantasy' ", asked me to skip the cutscene and called me a dick. We had 50 minutes to spare at the end of the game. And I didn't even skip ANY CUTSCENES. They're both stupid. And instead of waiting for us, they went on ahead. They left me and a Dragoon player out of one fight. They're the one rushing for the items or whatever. If they want a speed run, why couldn't they form their own group? Or go with their guildies for god's sake. They think they're so good and pro. When I died, I had a 15% reduction from my health and they told me to go, right away to fight the last boss. I totally can tank that with my 15% reduced health.

So impatient. I even apologized for watching the cutscenes and they still acted like complete jerks. I didn't even need to apologize and one of them say "Don't apologize if you don't mean it." I only apologized because I can understand their impatience but I still want to enjoy the story line. This is just me ranting but god damn, having to spent that much time with them annoyed the hell out of me. I wasn't the only one watching the cutscene either but they picked on me. So stupid and ridiculous. I'm glad there's no kick, cause if there was, I would have been kicked and wasted an hour of hard work.

To all you new players, ENJOY THE CUTSCENES. Don't feel pressured to skip. Ignore the douchebags and jerks. Don't even bother replying. Ignore them!

Been insulted in The Praetorium for all the run because I was watching all the cutscenes.
Didn't care, ignored what they were saying and kept watching them because it was my first time and I care for the story.

I think that everyone who's there for their first time have the right to watch them and enjoy the story.
If you're not ok with it, you don't have the right to insult them, and you can put up your own group, with blackjack and hookers, who's gonna skip them all.

People will wait for me to watch my cutscenes, and I'm 100% honeybadger toward their impatience.

For what it's worth, I never had any issues like this. As you can see, I am not 50. My point is, I think the people who race to 50 are the most impatient. The majority of the community is not there yet, and I think we will help dilute the impetuousness of some of the current 50's. ;)

I've never been so ticked off as I was last night in a Praetorium run. Four of us were running together and all of us really enjoy the storyline and have NO intention of skipping it just because other people have their panties in a wad and want to speed run. And no, watching it in the inn is not an option for us.... But that didn't stop one Lala Black Mage from trying to ruin the run for my friend who had not done it yet and was seeing it fresh. Besides hurling insults at us, the little S.O.B decided to pull the 'final final' boss while we were watching the cut scene and beat him with the other 3 people, none of the 4 of us, so my friend didn't even get to take part in that fight. WTF is WRONG with you people, that you can't let someone enjoy the story as written??? Entitled little brat was so hot to trot that he couldn't wait a few minutes to let someone see the culmination of their work and story? You have ZERO right to do that to people. If you want to speed run, you go get 7 other like-minded people but you don't go out to ruin the gameplay of half of the party, including one of the healers and one of the tanks.

Grow. Up. Seriously, people.

I'll never skip cutscenes my first time seeing them. I'm playing this game for the story, first and foremost. The story is good enough that it deserves that.

I don't see why everyone seems to think you can't watch the cutscenes in the inn
http://i.imgur.com/ZzMy935.png

It's pretty obvious that you can (also just noticed that typo in the description of praetorium)

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Originally Posted by Holyhunter

I don't see why everyone seems to think you can't watch the cutscenes in the inn
http://i.imgur.com/ZzMy935.png

It's pretty obvious that you can (also just noticed that typo in the description of praetorium)

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Or you can watch them while you're doing that party of the story, as they were meant to be watched.

Yes, Holyhunter, you CAN watch them in the inn. But why should I *HAVE* to just to make some little brat who is viciously nasty to others for not doing what they want when they want happy? My friends paid just as much as they did for the game and if at least HALF of the group say 'Hey, we're here for the story and watching the cut scenes' then you respect that. I don't have a problem with someone asking 'hey, is this a speed run?' but to have a hissy-fit and DEMAND that people skip their storyline, which the game is all about, just so you can speed things is over the line. You want to speed and farm? Get a group dedicated to that. But don't try to bully other players or ruin their time so you can get your way. It's called being a mature adult.

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Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth

My friends paid just as much as they did for the game and if at least HALF of the group say 'Hey, we're here for the story and watching the cut scenes' then you respect that.

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I do respect that, but half of the people in this thread from what i've seen wouldn't respect the group if at least HALF of them said "Hey we're speedrunning this, so skip the cutscene, you can watch them in the inn."

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Originally Posted by Holyhunter

I do respect that, but half of the people in this thread from what i've seen wouldn't respect the group if at least HALF of them said "Hey we're speedrunning this, so skip the cutscene, you can watch them in the inn."

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They shouldn't be pugging then. You don't pug when you want a smooth run where everyone has the same mindset.

They're Story Dungeons, the only reward in CM and TP are 100 Tomestones. Wanderer's Palace and Amdapor Keep can be finished way faster than any of those, has no important cut-scenes, drops gear and tomestones. If a player chooses to do a Story dungeon for an easy run, then you'll have to deal with the people that want to watch the cut-scenes and suck it up.

What boggles my mind is the fact that people don't get that it is the final STORYLINE dungeon. Story. Line. As in, people HAVE to play it to continue the story.... why force these players, who have not seen it before and who are excited to see 'what happens next' with their party to skip things because someone is there to farm it? That's just wrong. It's mean to those players and it IS bullying them. Watching in the inn is useful, but it takes away from the enjoyment of the 'moment' and the impact of the fights.

I wish they wouldn't give the tomestones away there at this point... all it has done is encourage people to ruin the story for players at this point.

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Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth

if at least HALF of the group say 'Hey, we're here for the story and watching the cut scenes' then you respect that.

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"Half"? Even if there's only one guy who didn't see the cutscenes yet, he has the full right to watch them and enhoy the story.

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Originally Posted by Adohleas

Some of us just watch all of them in our Inn instead so we don't get pressured to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

The scenes that play in dungeons can not be viewed at the inn room.

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Stop talking out of your ass, they can not be viewed in the inn

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Originally Posted by gintoki88

Stop talking out of your ass, they can not be viewed in the inn

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Stop talking out of your ass, they CAN be viewed in the inn.

They are in the Duty category (because they are dungeon cutscenes), not Story.

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Originally Posted by gintoki88

Stop talking out of your ass, they can not be viewed in the inn

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Yes they can, this was not common knowledge, I did not know this at the time. You have to play them in the duty section. That is really irrelevant though, it still does not mean players should feel they have to skip cut-scenes

I said fk it and watched my cutscenes. If they want to run off and die or initiate a boss fight 1 healer short then power to them I'll watch from the seal as they die. Even when running it multiple times I will rewatch the cutscenes if we have any new people doing it for story completion. I love tomes as much as the next but story > everything so I refuse to skip or allow others to pressure others into skipping cutscenes.

If they want to speed run it and skip all cutscenes then they are free to get 7 other like minded individuals from their own server and speedrun their hearts out all day.

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Originally Posted by Fuz

"Half"? Even if there's only one guy who didn't see the cutscenes yet, he has the full right to watch them and enhoy the story.

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Well, yes, that is my belief as well. As a healer, I will always sit my furry tail back with a person watching the cut scenes and either watch them with them, or just wait. In a 4 person dungeon my refusal to move on carries a BIT more weight, of course... But I will do it in any and all of the 8man content, too. Speed running will never, ever, take precedence over someone watching the story to me. If I'm short on time I just don't do something I know takes a particular amount of time. That is on me, not a person wanting to enjoy the story and I have zero right to take that away from anyone. EVER.

My saying 'half the group' was just pointing out that it wasn't just 'one or two people holding up the group' for those that seem to think their desire to skip stuff trumps people enjoying what the devs took a very long time to create. Not an indication that it takes a particular number to make it 'okay'.

Of course, the attitude and actions, along with immature words from Coke Zero(Goblin server) has just ensured that I will do most of those dungeons with a set party of FC people instead of queuing up as a healer to help pugs get pops. So grats to the childish immature 'brave behind a keyboard' people... it is because of people like you that queues are as long as they are... tanks and healers don't want to deal with your crap.

The only cutscene I skipped for later was the second change of phases in the ultima fight because it begins without waiting for you. No one's making my skip my cutscenes. Each player plays at his pace.

When I hit 50 I'll watch them all :cool:

Cutscenes should be unskippables. Easy fix, and that would teach those speed runners that cant spare a few minutes.

SE plight was all about "limit stress for new players". Lol I wonder how a new players would feel after going through this bad experience.

Those people had to wait 30min to 1hour to get a PUG and they can't handle 1 or 2min cutscenes ?
I hope they can handle the fight by themselves or they will enjoy another ride in the queue, waiting for another healer.