You can't "lock" something that doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by Lihtleita

could you imagine if male viera were fully implemented and we just werent allowed to play them

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That would be apocalyptic for SE

So was Yoshida wrong when he said he didn't like gender locking so he made sure male Miqote and female Roadagyn were made?

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Originally Posted by ParaKnox

So was Yoshida wrong when he said he didn't like gender locking so he made sure male Miqote and female Roadagyn were made?

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Yea, I didn't even think of that. Hasn't Yoshi used the term himself? :v Are you gonna tell him he's using it wrong too OP?

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Yea, I didn't even think of that. Hasn't Yoshi used the term himself? :v Are you gonna tell him he's using it wrong too OP?

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Originally Posted by ParaKnox

So was Yoshida wrong when he said he didn't like gender locking so he made sure male Miqote and female Roadagyn were made?

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can people put link of the article when he said that, I haven't find any interview at moment where he says that. In the last Interview he said that he added the male Miqo'te and female Roegadyn to fill a void that was present before launch

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Originally Posted by Lacan

Yea, I didn't even think of that. Hasn't Yoshi used the term himself? :v Are you gonna tell him he's using it wrong too OP?

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OP hasn't posted in a while so I'll take the pass: If neither one of them were present in 1.0 in any form i.e. NPCs then yes, he's using the term wrong because they weren't available to be locked.

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Originally Posted by Joven

OP hasn't posted in a while so I'll take the pass: If neither one of them were present in 1.0 in any form i.e. NPCs then yes, he's using the term wrong because they weren't available to be locked.

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Merlwyb was in 1.0

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Merlwyb was in 1.0

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merlwyb was probably added when they were already developing the female roegadyn assets. iirc she was introduced in patch 1.22, near the end of the legacy's lifetime.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Merlwyb was in 1.0

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

There was a male miqo. (If im not remembering wrong)

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If that's the case then they were available, so they would be considered locked.

There weren't any male miqote assets till ARR. Merlwerlbrylylberb was the only female roe in 1.0 and her model was completely unique. People weren't sure what race she was, some thought she was just a unique looking f elezen.


So the traditional race assets weren't in 1.0 and m miqote and f roe were still considered "genderlocked." Checkmate nerds. :v

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Originally Posted by ParaKnox

So was Yoshida wrong when he said he didn't like gender locking so he made sure male Miqote and female Roadagyn were made?

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The chances of Yoshida saying "gender locking" are about 0.000001%.

Why? Because he doesn't speak English. At least not enough to make that statement in English.

So what does that mean? It means it's a translation by someone, which means Yoshida didn't use those express words.

Now, personally I think semantics arguments are boring and useless, so I don't really care one way or the other if "genderlocking" is being misused. But I do care about false claims, which is why I'm correcting this one.

I agree with the content of the post however the title of the thread is simply wrong. It's a genderlock, no matter how you look at it. One race can only be a certain gender, that means there is a lock on the genders, they are gender-locked.

Not hard to understand.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Jeez guys, this isn't that hard

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Tell that to the ones still thinking they're locked from the opposite gender.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

The chances of Yoshida saying "gender locking" are about 0.000001%.

Why? Because he doesn't speak English. At least not enough to make that statement in English.

So what does that mean? It means it's a translation by someone, which means Yoshida didn't use those express words.

Now, personally I think semantics arguments are boring and useless, so I don't really care one way or the other if "genderlocking" is being misused. But I do care about false claims, which is why I'm correcting this one.

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If the best translation of what he's saying is "genderlock" then isn't that pretty much what he is saying? Or are you saying you know better than the translators?

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Originally Posted by Liale

So you really made a post to argue about the term gender locking which is the agreed upon term in the video game community for decisions to lock races or classes to one gender or the other? You might as well try to argue with a dictionary.

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Hard to argue with a dictionary when the term isn't even in said dictionary. I wouldn't exactly call a community of individuals, all with their own perspectives and views on how the word should be phrased or worked, as a dictionary to reference by since everyone has their own ideas.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

If the best translation of what he's saying is "genderlock" then isn't that pretty much what he is saying? Or are you saying you know better than the translators?

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1) No, it is not. The entire point of the post is the use of the ENGLISH WORD "genderlock" (and how the OP thinks it's being misused). The OP makes an ENGLISH semantics argument. Therefore, it's impossible that Yoshida could have "used genderlock wrong" because he would never use the word genderlock.

2) I would have to look at the Japanese actually used to confirm, but I guarantee it wasn't a single word he used. Likely he said something like, "I wasn't happy that Miqote and Roegadyn were missing genders". There's no word in Japanese for "genderlock".

3) Yes, I'm fluent in Japanese. At the very least I know that there is not a word in Japanese for "genderlock".

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

1) No, it is not. The entire point of the post is the use of the ENGLISH WORD "genderlock" (and how the OP thinks it's being misused). The OP makes an ENGLISH semantics argument. Therefore, it's impossible that Yoshida could have "used genderlock wrong" because he would never use the word genderlock.

2) I would have to look at the Japanese actually used to confirm, but I guarantee it wasn't a single word he used. Likely he said something like, "I wasn't happy that Miqote and Roegadyn were missing genders". There's no word in Japanese for "genderlock".

3) Yes, I'm fluent in Japanese. At the very least I know that there is not a word in Japanese for "genderlock".

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Just look at the Japanese thread regarding that. You'll see they almost use this word 性別固定 all the time, which roughly means gender fixed, not locked (thanks google). They only used the term gender lock (in Katakana) when talking about how the west describe it.

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Originally Posted by Anemone-aura

技術的に難しいからやらない、ではなくて、難しいから目をつむって可能な範囲で実現する、というのがFF14だと思ってます。服の突き抜けとか。
NAフォーラムの方ではジェンダーロックだとかなり紛糾してますけど、だったらやらないよりは今回のような形でもやってもらえた方がうれしいです。

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Originally Posted by sorena

拙い言葉になりますが
海外の方がいわれているような所謂ジェンダーロックというものに関しては私はあまり気になりません
どちらかといえば私は「女性はセクシー、男性は筋肉質」といった古い固定観念にがっかりしています

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And I doubt Yoshi P used the term ジェンダーロック in his interviews at all.