Questions and Feedback on the Future of FINAL FANTASY XIV

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Do you really expect players to stick around and pay for an incomplete game?

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When is an MMO ever complete?

Since the Seventh Umbral Era storyline will close off the current scenario completely, would it be possible at least to complete the current city storylines (not the Grand Companies storyline, the individual stories)?

Copy & Paste from my blog.

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Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 News / Feedback !

I just want to say Thank You! to Yoshi-P & the Dev Team for
the recent Announcement with FFXIV 2.0

Im really Really excited about this new information,
all the concept art / ideas! :P

They look wonderful, and i cant wait to experience this new world,
even thou some of the current areas will remain.
(they are fine as they are right not, maybe some tweaks)
But the new zone's looks simply amazing!

So far what excited me most were the Concept arts of the new zones,
the new classes, housing & mail delivery system!

Wooooooo!!!!

No0my Happy !!! \( ^.^)/

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Now to my Questions:

...actually at this time i have no questions, i just want to go
explore and find my own answers in that new world that awaits!

- No0my!

Another question: With the one-time race change and new storyline in 2.0, can we please have an option to change our allegiance* along with the race aswell?

*Not grand company allegience, starting city allegience that we are storyline-bound to the first 20 levels

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

When is an MMO ever complete?

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When the servers shut down for good? >.>

Great content plans.

Hoping for the best, while keeping my feet on the ground. I will subscribe for the next year, seeing as how it's just like paying for a new game; and the current $70 game has already provided me with more than enough hours of entertainment to pay itself (in comparison with the game play time of other $60~ dollar console and PC games. )

Despite the tedious bugs it started out with, it has eventually turned out into something enjoyable.

Whatever I pay for during the next year, I will consider it part of a fee for exclusive content of a whole new game; The game itself, and an extension and conclusion of the current game. (e.g. Skyrim's collector's is worth $150) We still don't know if there will be an additional reward for the players of the seventh umbral era story line.

Considering there are a lot of questions unanswered and a month and half left for the subscription to go into effect; I'd say that any conclusion about the whole deal, at the present, would be subject of prejudice.

Despite this I'm convinced to pay for the subscription given that I have been playing the most recent content in a mid-core esque way and it has been quite entertaining. I think they are doing things right this time; judging by the quality of the updates; and think that the release of the New Iteration of FFXIV Online will be worth it; and truly live up to the Final Fantasy title.

They never marketed the game for Hardcore gamers, they explicitly explained that it was for casual gamers; with these parameters in mind, the content they have released should be more than enough to cover for the initial price of the game.

Besides, I knew what I was signing up for when I bought the game; I played the open-beta, and was very much aware it was an incomplete game (and I am willing to bet every single troll out there bought the game knowing it was not finished)

Whoever bought this game at release (or at least many of us), knew full well (or at the very least suspected) they were buying a promise of something and not the thing itself; which is why I personally don't understand all the trolling coming from people who have grind all classes to 50 and so much time out of the game that they have turned a $70 dollar investment into hundreds of hours of entertainment (be that tedious entertainment or rewarding)

I have many questions about the new game coming out, but many of them have already been asked in this thread.

Square-Enix has my support for now; the rest will depend on the development team, the quality of the content released and whatever announcements they make during the coming months.

A little question: in a redesign map (Coerthas i think) there is an 'Astronomy Observatory' place. This imply something regards implementation of constellations and other observable cosmos objects? The possibility to use that? Or some sort of content about it? It would be awesome indeed.

About subscription, i'm going to pay in december also to help in this big project but i think the most suitable period to begin to pay would have been at 1.21 patch imo.

I would like to also post my concern about the monthly billing issue as so many others have stated.

You're treading on thin ice SE, so tread softly.

We, the community that populates FFXIV currently, are mostly die hard fans of the FF series and SE in general. If it weren't for us, there wouldn't be any players to busy your servers.

For the past year you have been using FFXIV as a test and us as the lab rats to gather insight for creating the REAL FFXIV. At least this is what the "Future of FFXIV" says in a nutshell when you read between the lines.

While I am pleased to see recent changes being made to FFXIV that should have been in the game when it launched, I don't feel that any of it deserves a reward or patronage. Each patch up to this point has merely been and proverbial "band-aid" on the real problem that underlies in FFXIV. To pay for that would be to reward failure or mediocrity, neither of which I condone for a game series and developer of your magnitude.

Since FFXIV was so bad it had to be rebuilt from the ground up, why should we pay for it?

charging for content that isn't 100% delivered is self-destructive behavior. With games like Diablo III, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Blade & Soul etc. etc. coming out very soon, just how do you expect to lure players in by charging them for tiny amounts of content/fixes without giving them a finished product?

I personally believe you should be paying us to test this festering turd of a programming nightmare for you and provide valuable feedback that you'll use to release the REAL FFXIV in 2013...

You have to have some nerve to think FFXIV is anywhere near being subscription worthy.

Heed our warning SE or risk having us, your valuable game testers, take a leave of absence for 10 months and maybe possibly never show back up again.

I'm excited for all the stuff I've heard about FFXIV. Another year is a long time to wait, but I hope the wait is worth it. I'm really enjoying myself in-game now, and if the content keeps coming to keep me occupied I'll gladly pay when the subscription fees start. The concept art, particularly that screenshot with the new GUI, looks epic, and I'll be very happy if the actual game resembles that even a little. With that said, let me start.

First, a suggestion. Please reconsider charging for this game until at least February or March of next year. I know this game is being operated at a huge loss right now, but with all of the games coming out this fall for consoles in addition to the upcoming WoW 4.3 patch and SW:TOR, there are many temptations that might lure players who are on the fence away. After that, it's out of sight, out of mind, and it'll be that much harder to get them back. With a release date a bit after FFXIII-2 though, people who want more Final Fantasy can start this up.

Second, I'd like to ask how big the graphics engine revamp will be. I was honestly surprised to hear "new graphics engine" when previously we'd just heard of optimization. However, I'm wondering if it will, for instance, have DirectX 11 support. This may be a bit technical to be answered on the live video, but a feature list or something in the next few months for us tech heads would be good to let us salivate over the prospects. In particular, I hope the lighting and shadows are improved, and I look forward to this game running better than it has been as the post promised.

Third, how much flexibility are you thinking of allowing for player UI mods? Player mods are part of what really give longevity to some games, and I hope you allow a lot of freedom, but I understand there may be balance concerns with the PS3 players.

Fourth, will voice acting be coming to all cutscenes, or just the FMV-quality ones. It's a pretty big undertaking to dub so much dialogue in 4 languages.

Fifth, how frequently will quests come in the new FFXIV? That is to say, will it be closer to the MMO standard of being able to get your character to max level only on quests? I believe this is an essential ingredient to success, as aside from old school MMORPG players (especially former FFXI players) nobody wants to grind mindless xp. I think any time that there's an xp grind party, it shines a spotlight on a lack of interesting content that party should be tackling.

Lastly, if I can direct a word at the players commenting. I totally understand if you don't think this game is quite up to snuff to be paying subscription fees for yet (I know I had trouble with the prospect for a long time), but there's no need for childish threats like post #249 there. I think it's a lot more effective to air your grievances in a clear, civil manner, as the people who receive them will be more inclined to listen to them.

What changes are being made to

Enemies
Phasing system
Battle system
PCs
Retainers
Login System
Character Motion
AI
Scenario & Quest systems
Parley
Item Search Feature
Levequests & Behests
Login & Patch procedure

in 2.0 build? According to this chart: http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Roadmap_EN.pdf

Tool production for 2.0 is well underway. How will this affect development procedures (positively) in the future?
How will 2.0 assets differ from 1.0 assets?
Please give us some details as to what the 2.0 graphics engine can accomplish compared to the 1.0 engine (better scaling aside). For example: the concept screenshot showed better lighting and effects.

Just how awesome are you, Yoshida?

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Do you really expect players to stick around and pay for an incomplete game?

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Is any MMO truly complete?. i was under the impression that being able to add content to a game that never finishes was the whole point of an MMO, I'm just say'in^^

Given more support for M/K in FFXIV 2.0, will we have the option to move our characters with mouse clicks? (click on location, walk to location)

@ Darkshine. Well thanks for fleshing out your outrage however you still are on about this incomplete stuff. Perhaps that is what you might want to explain. Also thank you on that "youngling part" I dont know how old you are but you might be just a smidge older than I as I am 36. Nice to see older folks still passionate about gaming in general, now that I like to see.

Anyway, points are valid and the only thing I am fanatic about are good rpgs. You might lack vision and the courage to pay for something that will be awesome because I think we all agree that 2.0 is gonna rock so we can start there letting that be the thing we both agree on.

Allow me to expand on why I choose to pay to give you where I am coming from. I look at the sub fee as a way of putting money down on something that I think will pay off later. Not unlike an investor that will plop down cash for someone elses vision. Now while the returns will not be cash per se, it will be in the years of entertainment to follow. Playing a game for free whether it is good or crap was at the end of the day all of our call. We all continued to play and complain and now that it will come time to "choose" now all of a sudden others want to jump ship or pay a reduced fee because they believe the game is half complete. Now lets examine the 50% complete statement many are using to support their argument. Yoshi P said that content wise the game is 50% complete. He didnt say which version now did he? For all we know things can be further along than they admit. Is it likely? Probably not but it is one of many possibilities. The fact is neither of us can know for sure because last time I looked I was a fireman not working for SE.

I respect your decision to not pay due to you feeling that the game is not done it doesnt take a genius or a wise old man to figure that out. However, can you offer the same respect to someone who is not paying for an incomplete game, but are putting a down payment on something to be finished later.

When comnpanies announce that they are making a certain game and its something I might be interested in I go to my local game store and I put down some money if not all of it to reserve my copy. Or preorder so to speak. Well my monthly sub fee is two fold.

1) To support the only mmo that I plan on playing in the future.

2) To pay for something that I actually use finished or not it eventually will be done to most gamer's standards and I just dont mind paying.

Sorry for the long post but sometimes you have to give a bit of info on why we say what we say so that people can atleast understand instead of just assuming they know exactly where the poster is coming from.

Take it easy and lets cheer SE in whatever way we can for a successful FFXIV 2.0 shall we?

Since there will be multiple languages for audio, will the choice be affected by the region you download / buy 2.0 or will be those switchable at runtime?

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Originally Posted by Agaziel

Given more support for M/K in FFXIV 2.0, will we have the option to move our characters with mouse clicks? (click on location, walk to location)

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I agree. I also have the same question, move our characters with mouse clicks.

First allow me to make some comments:

1. Though I am sure Yoshida-san had some input the final decision to to start charging a subscription fee and its timing was Wada-san's alone. Your concerns for this matter should be addressed to him and not the Dev Team.

2. I accept the need for SE to start charging subscriptions to help offset the continued developement costs and to keep this game afloat. Personnally I believe that they should have waited for the release of 1.21 as this was point at which Yoshida thought the game would be corrected and ready for future updates. That said I will continue to keep playing after December.

3. One of the reasons that I will keep playing is the fact Yoshida initially promised that we would not lose our progress once the process of salvaging this trainwreck was completed. I thank him for keeping that promise through V2.0 and as such I do not feel as if my time will be wasted.

4. After reading the downloads <3 times> this continues to be a massive undertaking. 14 months to V2.0. I think there will be alot of sleepless nughts in Tokyo between now and then. In the end I believe that they will have a product to be proud of.

Three questions:

1. To Wada-san are you planning to make any changes to the payment system as it relates to Click and Buy. Personnally I would not go within 100 miles of that oufit and if you continue to insist on using them you will lose alot of subscriptions both here and in FFXI.

2. Also to Wada-san. I paly both FFXI and this game. I pay by Crysta for reasons cited above. At present I can only have 10,000 Crysta on hand to pay for both games. Why can we not have a limit of 10,000 for each game that we play. With inopurtune timing I might not have enough on hand to pay for both games even though I have enough money to buy what I need.

3. To Yoshida-san.Your current Roadmap shows the PS3 release scheduled for early 2013. <Guess Amazon had some inside info when they changed their release date projection to 3/3/2013> The latest news that I have read shows that the PS4 will be released sometime within a year after that. Will this game be portable to the new console.


Thank you for your time.

Would the new graphic engine change the realism of the game? I for one love how the art work in the game looks and i fear that it would switch over to more Western/Korean type of graphic the concept art work showed to us is just very confusing on how the game would change can you tell us if the game would stay with the same type of realism?

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Do you really expect the players to not stick around? Even if 50k subs turned into 25k, do you think they give a damn? 2.0 is where it's at.

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i rather think that ppl who already left will forget about the game til 2013 and ppl who are still in the game and are now leaving won't come back. That is the reason why the few months too early won't cut it for SE and rather hurt them.
The reason why SE is in not the best financial position won't be solved by a few subs. I think its more the " we have loyal fans, why dont we try to let them pay now " , and some really wanna pay 50 EUR + 150 EUR development to get a full game and then keep paying for the game to maintain quality and keep rolling. I don't think that will work out.

Will there be the possibility of being able to transfer servers in the near future?

Thanks!

Why do you insist on us killing cute things???? The next primal battle is the Malevolent Moogle (http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Outline_EN.pdf pg 14)... How many Kupos do we need to hear to get the gear that people want?

Just seems wrong, man...

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Originally Posted by Anty

i rather think that ppl who already left will forget about the game til 2013 and ppl who are still in the game and are now leaving won't come back. That is the reason why the few months too early won't cut it for SE and rather hurt them.

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It's such a marginal number, that it doesn't matter. The revenue they gain from those who don't leave is a greater incentive.

The people who left by now are much larger in numbers, and this sub fee won't affect them. Seriously speaking, how many of them do you see coming back before 2.0 now that it has been announced? It doesn't make any sense, with or without sub fees.

This fee is in place for those who play the current game and are willing to pay for it. Some will leave, but we are not talking about a mass exodus here- since this game doesn't even have the playerbase for mass exodus in the first place.

50% of people leaving the game in its current state is not the same as 50% of people leaving WoW in its current state. And even in that case Blizzard would get more revenue out of 5mil of their players paying a fee instead of 10mil paying nothing.

In a nutshell, not all customers are equal. Especially when half the customers are blocking the company's stream of revenue from the other half of the customers altogether.

Will the existing races get new animations or new stances to really differentiate them from each other?
(Eg. Elezen getting their Final Fantasy 11 Monk stance when the weapon is drawn). Yes i hate the fact that Elezen don't look as cool as their 11 counter-part.
Also will the existing Weapon Skills have new animations as well? (Eg. like Doomspike 2 did)

(Hello!) My friend is extremely worried that when 2.0 FFXIV is release, it will be a complete re-boot and that it will erased any previous data our characters had. Can you make it clear, official that it will not be the case, if it is not too much trouble, please make this answer out to Eli Storm of Istory.

Right now I'm still playing FFXI but, keeping my account on FFXIV to jump in from time to time to check up on how the improvements work out. I report back to my friends on the LS (the few that are still with us and to those that left i'm still in contact with) on progress of the games improvement. The repairs to the game is certainly going in the right direction. All of us are hopeful that when this game is complete it will reinvigorate interest in our friends to return.

As good as the progress has been, FFXVI is still a few more updates away from the point where I will be willing to pay for the service. Being an IT PM for a living, I have enjoyed viewing the changes as they occur. This development team is performing a fantastic job of rescuing this troubled project.

It's not quite ready for regular play for me so for now, I will pass on paying up to see that happen.

I do fully understand SE's need to start seeing revenue from the game. The pressure from the business need to start seeing pay back for what must be 10s or maybe even 100s of millions of dollars in project investment has to be crushing on the development team management.

Keep up the good work and I'll see you in 2013

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Originally Posted by Royal

I am requested a lifetime subscription option when subscriptions are activated. I am going to stick around for years to come. I saw that option in DCUO and would love it here. Is that sometime you have considered?

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Not to sound bad but I have noticed MMO's that offer Lifetimes usually end up going FTP by the time the amount of time has passed the lifetime members have paid, so if they just waited they could of gotten to play without paying 200$ For example DCUO is now pretty much FTP except you don't get achievements if you don't pay.

Why does SE feel its the right time to start charging sub fees for a half finished game, during the holiday season!? knowing a whole NEW version is releasing a year or so later?

What I find particularly amusing is that if Yoshi P. had announced only a timeline for the patches and left us in the dark about V2.0 no one would be on here complaining about paying for a half finished game. How do I know this, BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL HERE! The game in it's current state is well worth paying $13 a month for, not to mention the dev team is building a new game from the ground up to correct the things that limited this game from day one. Forty three cents a day, one, if you can't afford that you should be focusing more time on bettering your career potential and less time on MMO's and forums. Two, for a year now, 250 families have been bearing the burden for yours and everyone else's subscription fees, it's time to reward the dev team for all the hard work they have put in turning a complete mess into the current highly enjoyable version we have today. If you disagree that the current game is worth paying for, goodbye and good riddance.

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Originally Posted by MiNuN

(Hello!) My friend is extremely worried that when 2.0 FFXIV is release, it will be a complete re-boot and that it will erased any previous data our characters had. Can you make it clear, official that it will not be the case, if it is not too much trouble, please make this answer out to Eli Storm of Istory.

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This excerpt should answer your question:

Among our new plans is the fundamental reworking of in-game maps. As part of this process, there will be a period required for switching over to a new client and new servers, after which there will be a large transfer of data when service is brought back online. After the new client is completed, new software for the PC version will be distributed online, and can be acquired free of charge. Character data and progress for players already playing the PC version will also be preserved, allowing those players to continue using their in-game avatars. Another announcement will be made in the future as the day on which the new FINAL FANTASY XIV software will become available for download draws near, and the PlayStation®3 system version officially released

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

It's such a marginal number, that it doesn't matter. The revenue they gain from those who don't leave is a greater incentive.

The people who left by now are much larger in numbers, and this sub fee won't affect them. Seriously speaking, how many of them do you see coming back before 2.0 now that it has been announced? It doesn't make any sense, with or without sub fees.

This fee is in place for those who play the current game and are willing to pay for it. Some will leave, but we are not talking about a mass exodus here- since this game doesn't even have the playerbase for mass exodus in the first place.

50% of people leaving the game in its current state is not the same as 50% of people leaving WoW in its current state. And even in that case Blizzard would get more revenue out of 5mil of their players paying a fee instead of 10mil paying nothing.

In a nutshell, not all customers are equal. Especially when half the customers are blocking the company's stream of revenue from the other half of the customers altogether.

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I'm agreeing with this. Additionally, FFXIV has been a drain on the company's resources for a year past the release date. If you take into account the fact that resources were already placed into the initial release, no shareholder in their right mind would be happy with the situation. SE can't keep reporting losses every quarter, and even if you guys feel cheated or "scammed" somehow, FFXIV is going to have to stand on its own feet eventually

I know you guys wish it was later rather than sooner, but there are probably plenty of reasons why that's not going to happen, and most of them probably have to do with money and company profits, since we're dealing with a business here and not a small developer operating from their garage.

If those that don't want to pay want to leave, it's fine. If you don't want to support the game and help pay the developers, I certainly wouldn't hold it against you. But the players that are going to leave will have absolutely no impact on what's going on right now. If the game was meant to fail, it will fail regardless of whether you were willing to pay or not. I'd wager that the majority who had left before this announcement wouldn't have returned anyway until 2.0 came out, and as was said before, getting money from 60% of the players is better than getting no money from 100% of players right now. I'm pretty sure the shareholders and other people who have a stake in the company see it that way too.

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Originally Posted by Darkshine

A Long-Winded Analysis of Why I Hate SE, By a Guy who Knows the Business

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I don't know just what you are expecting. I don't care how much experience you say you have in marketing. I don't care if you think what they're doing is unfair, a bad business decision, or whatever. Because it all boils down to this:

Do you work for them? Are you making their decisions? No? Then shut the hell up. I think they're better off without you.

I paid $75USD for the game. I then proceeded to play the game for over a year for free because of a bunch of people complaining. To be honest, I would have payed for it from release. Am I "right" in saying that? Well, no- Obviously the majority opinion of elements about the game influenced them to let us play for free. But here's the thing.

The game wasn't designed to be play for free. There are no microtransactions. SE, the entire time, has been scrambling to deliver a stronger product. Huge patches have kept coming out (through a disaster, mind you) each full of new content. They have been listening to us, a first for them. They have bent over backwards to meet the demand of communication and have been developing the game in a fair direction, fairly quickly.

They didn't have to let us play for free. They could have kept charging and used that money to bring in more devs to produce the content faster. But no, while not making any money from the game, they spit out patch after patch.

The 12-month path from "subscription start" to FFXIV2.0 is going to be riddled with unique story content that is "live." We're all going to be part of something. I'll thank all their hard work with my wallet, and they'll thank my patronage with unique story content. I see it as a win-win. So, Darkshine, you have to ask yourself;

Do you enjoy the game in its current state? Do you want to experience the 7th Umbral Era? Then pay up.
Hate the game? Don't care about the story content? GTFO. You'd probably just be complaining and ruining everyone else's fun ingame anyway.

It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if you're 15, 25, 35, or 45. It's all about your outlook and whether or not you're willing to pay for it. No one cares what experience you have.

Me personally? I fit your aforementioned age group at 24. But it doesn't matter how old I am because I am looking forward to experiencing the coming patches and story content, and I am willing to pay for that.

Sorry, no. I won't validate your experience in this situation. Maybe if I were to choose to consult with you on a marketing decision, but no one around here is doing that right now.

Good luck, have fun.

(P.S.) I still play MUDs.

Is SE planning on putting in more social items (i.e. clothing, jewelry, etc)?

Will you all have my babies collectively?

Can the crafters have an official recipe book that shows all the recipes they have ever done and be accessible at all times as opposed to what they just crafted and it disappears after doing other recipes?

In regards to whether or not SE is pushing for subscription fees to start now or later, I will be paying. It is my investment to the team to deliver on their plan of attack in making sure this is one of the more outstanding mmorpgs out on the market. I have no qualms at this time paying it. I will be angry if what has been advertised in 2.0 and everything preceding it fails to be implemented. Please don't make me feel like I have wasted my faith and my money SE. That is all I ask. I am sure many others feel the same way

Yes, Diablo III is coming out - who cares? I plan on playing that and FFXIV. lol

1.) Will the game engine by using Luminous and offer DX11 features ?

2.) I noticed in the concept UI there is now a mini map with + and - to zoom in and out are you considering adding gathering nodes to the minimap like in other mmos ?

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Originally Posted by Apricoth

Can the crafters have an official recipe book that shows all the recipes they have ever done and be accessible at all times as opposed to what they just crafted and it disappears after doing other recipes?

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This was already answered in the PDF :-
Release of an item notebook after version 2.0 to log all recipes and crafted items for consolidated, easy viewing.
Release of an item notebook after version 2.0 to log gathering level and item information for consolidated, easy viewing

My question is really simple:

Where's Shiva and Carbunkle? :D

And my second question is:

Can Odin's horse have 6 legs? Pwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeaaaaase?

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Originally Posted by leomike35

@ Darkshine. Well thanks for fleshing out your outrage however you still are on about this incomplete stuff. Perhaps that is what you might want to explain. Also thank you on that "youngling part" I dont know how old you are but you might be just a smidge older than I as I am 36. Nice to see older folks still passionate about gaming in general, now that I like to see.

Anyway, points are valid and the only thing I am fanatic about are good rpgs. You might lack vision and the courage to pay for something that will be awesome because I think we all agree that 2.0 is gonna rock so we can start there letting that be the thing we both agree on.

Allow me to expand on why I choose to pay to give you where I am coming from. I look at the sub fee as a way of putting money down on something that I think will pay off later. Not unlike an investor that will plop down cash for someone elses vision. Now while the returns will not be cash per se, it will be in the years of entertainment to follow. Playing a game for free whether it is good or crap was at the end of the day all of our call. We all continued to play and complain and now that it will come time to "choose" now all of a sudden others want to jump ship or pay a reduced fee because they believe the game is half complete. Now lets examine the 50% complete statement many are using to support their argument. Yoshi P said that content wise the game is 50% complete. He didnt say which version now did he? For all we know things can be further along than they admit. Is it likely? Probably not but it is one of many possibilities. The fact is neither of us can know for sure because last time I looked I was a fireman not working for SE.

I respect your decision to not pay due to you feeling that the game is not done it doesnt take a genius or a wise old man to figure that out. However, can you offer the same respect to someone who is not paying for an incomplete game, but are putting a down payment on something to be finished later.

When comnpanies announce that they are making a certain game and its something I might be interested in I go to my local game store and I put down some money if not all of it to reserve my copy. Or preorder so to speak. Well my monthly sub fee is two fold.

1) To support the only mmo that I plan on playing in the future.

2) To pay for something that I actually use finished or not it eventually will be done to most gamer's standards and I just dont mind paying.

Sorry for the long post but sometimes you have to give a bit of info on why we say what we say so that people can atleast understand instead of just assuming they know exactly where the poster is coming from.

Take it easy and lets cheer SE in whatever way we can for a successful FFXIV 2.0 shall we?

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Well put, I wanted to write the same, specially about Yoshi's 50% claim; which he didn't contrast with anything at all, just said " in terms of content". I believe Yoshi and the development team have a Vision about the ideal FFXIV, and from this point to the ideal FFXIV we are at 50%. Nowhere is it implied that the game is not ready to be charged for, considering the same argument some have used about an MMO never being finished.

Also I'd like to point out, while trying not to sound like I'm flaming or trolling; that I believe calling you a "youngling" was an attempt a derogation, unnecessary and a little bit hubristic from Darkshine's part; being young, if that were the case, does not necessarily mean that you do not know what you're talking about.

In any case, I don't think it should be our intention to persuade anyone at this point; each is entitled to his opinion, and I do not think much good would come from arguing about it here.

they must have lost their damn minds and this is where you will see this game dissapear lmao. No classes added to "feb" tera online, kotor and gw 2 are gonna eat this game alive this will be a epic fail one that SE and fans will never forget! XD

jumping...swimming...u still plan on adding these? i know most people have adapted to running around every rock and cliff side but i would like to go over them like i would in any other game.

1. Is it possible to implement application for mobile devices/smartphones in the future to use features like LS chat or managing retainers whithout logging into the game?
2. I dont like the quality of english voice-over. Will it be possible to download and use Japanese voice-over as an option?
3. Will i be able to join Garlean Empire faction/city in the future?
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4. Can i have a maid instead of a moogle in my moghouse?

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they must have lost their damn minds and this is where you will see this game dissapear lmao. No classes added to "feb" tera online, kotor and gw 2 are gonna eat this game alive this will be a epic fail one that SE and fans will never forget! XD

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have to agree. SE is makin a big mistake and i hope they see it b4 its to late. i like everything they plan on adding but i will not pay why i wait for the shit that shoulda been here from the release. i have been following tera for like 3 years now and i have high hopes for it like i did this game. if its better witch its pretty much a sure thing seeing as how this game is so broke. they proly wont see me back again for another test. cuzz atm thats all this game is a beta test that all of use payed for.... but that was not what i was led to believe when i bought it.

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My question is really simple:

Where's Shiva and Carbunkle? :D

And my second question is:

Can Odin's horse have 6 legs? Pwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeaaaaase?

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~correction: 8 legs! It must have 8 legs, nothing less, nothing more. SE do it! Do it - right!

1. Are you actually using Luminous to develop the game, or did you license another engine out to redevelop FFXIV 2.0 thus incorporating DX11 capabilities into the engine?

2. With DX11 capabilities present should you be switching over to Luminous, will you incorporate proper development to take full use of Quad, 6 and 8 core processors to alleviate some of the issues that plagued FFXIV version 1.0?

3. Will you incorporate proper programming to allow full use of SLI/Crossfire setups on the PC version allowing for greater than 60 fps on proper setups?

4. With the redevelopment of the client is it possible to have the new PC client stop time-stamping 2-300 files every 60-90 seconds as that was causing variable lag on some systems forcing people to upgrade there HDD to SSD to stop said itinerant lag?

5. What types of hardware will you be testing on to verify that GPU temps will not spike like they did in FFXIV 1.0?

6. Is the new UI pic concept art or was that an actual picture of what we can expect from FFXIV 2.0?

7. Will there be a return option in the future to replace our current physical hard media copies. Some NA/EU ISP have bandwidth caps and downloading 6+GB of Data every time we need to install is not the most optimal option. Will there be a replacement option for our hard media should we want new physical disks?

8. Are you developing FFXIV primarily for PC or PS3 will FFXIV be a PS3 client ported to PC or vice versa, SE in the past has used PS2/3 limitations as an excuse not to do certain things to the game or implement certain features.