Airship Guide

Short (24-ish hours) trip to the sectors 4 > 7 unlocked the sector 10.
(rank 34, full Enterprise)
http://i61.tinypic.com/9t1lys.png
Also, I think it's our first S rating.

Anyone have info on what Sector 12 drops yet?

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Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz

Anyone have info on what Sector 12 drops yet?

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Got Fire crystals and 5 Dexterity Materia IV.
From spreadsheet: Water crystals, Shrub seedlings, Dark chestnut branch

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Originally Posted by ZukoDawg

Hey mates,

I read through nearly every page and while much is said about sector 8, can someone confirm the following:

We've found sector 7, What I don't know is if we have to "only" travel to sector 7 and no where else in order to unlock 8?

My FC and I have all enterprise parts on hour ship, are rank 27 and have visiting sector 7 every stink'n day :( I just can't understand being stuck only going to 7 and would love to know if this is indeed the correct path to unlock 8.

Warm regards

-Zuko

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Hey, sorry this must have gotten missed in the responses. Yes, as far as we can tell SC08 can be found off of single trips to SC07. Some people have reported as such, though we got ours from a trip that entailed SC07 -> SC06.

Just doing a bit of testing with images for the OP, ignore this post!

Opened 15th sector from 13th sector (13-11-9) Invincible II - hull and forecastle, enterprise rigging and invincible aftcastle
And drop:
13th sector - Craftsman's competence materia IV (craftsmanship)
9th sector - quickarm materia III

http://i.imgur.com/4BRAMzh.png

Got Scarlet Sap from sector 10, if that hasn't been reported yet.

I made this and threw it up on the reddit thread, but was asked to put it here, so here's the parts list for the Enterprise in a handy excel form. Copy it to your docs and you can coordinate parts and update it in real time between you guys. Really helped us out in team building the ship. We would just highlight a row that we were working on, and then 0 it out when we were done.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wA8/edit#gid=0

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Originally Posted by Enseric

Opened 15th sector from 13th sector (13-11-9) Invincible II - hull and forecastle, enterprise rigging and invincible aftcastle
And drop:
13th sector - Craftsman's competence materia IV (craftsmanship)
9th sector - quickarm materia III

http://i.imgur.com/4BRAMzh.png

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Nice! It's good to confirm that tier 4 materias are showing up of all the right types :p

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Originally Posted by Kuraiholy

I made this and threw it up on the reddit thread, but was asked to put it here, so here's the parts list for the Enterprise in a handy excel form. Copy it to your docs and you can coordinate parts and update it in real time between you guys. Really helped us out in team building the ship. We would just highlight a row that we were working on, and then 0 it out when we were done.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wA8/edit#gid=0

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Pretty helpful, is it safe to assume you only used NQ mats and that these are the full quantities?

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Originally Posted by Arcticharm

Pretty helpful, is it safe to assume you only used NQ mats and that these are the full quantities?

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Yeah, this is strictly a parts list before any work had been done what-so-ever, so it's your worst case.

Yeah I'm really happy about the type IV materias! I think your theory is right Waring \o/

In other news, I think I botched the design job on the new sector list. I wanted to have it in google docs because surprisingly it is easier to modify than the forum. The design seemed cool for the first sector but it does not scale well, too little information spread out over too much space. Design is not my day job :D

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

Thanks for the report
I\\'ve added this to the sector map, but my placement is a total guess :P Will you let me know how far off I am? Also, what forecastle were you using? I\\'ll use that as the basis for my "recommendation"

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...b?w=1063&h=723

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Looks accurate to me invincible 2 forecastle.

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Originally Posted by Enseric

Got Fire crystals and 5 Dexterity Materia IV.
From spreadsheet: Water crystals, Shrub seedlings, Dark chestnut branch

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re:s12, synthetic fiber too

Quick question. Is finding new sectors totally random? Becouse we have rank 40 ship and we can't go past sector 10 (rank 27). I just upgraded forecastle from Invicible to Invicible type II, maybe that will help.

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Originally Posted by Kielus

Quick question. Is finding new sectors totally random? Becouse we have rank 40 ship and we can't go past sector 10 (rank 27). I just upgraded forecastle from Invicible to Invicible type II, maybe that will help.

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I think better forecastle will help. I've opened sectors 11-13 and sector 15 with Invincible II forecastle.
And I don't think it's totally random. At least you need to visit needed sector to open another.

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Originally Posted by Enseric

I think better forecastle will help. I've opened sectors 11-13 and sector 15 with Invincible II forecastle.
And I don't think it's totally random. At least you need to visit needed sector to open another.

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There MAY be a minimum stat required to find some locations BUT at this point we don't have enough data to know for sure what those minimums are. Bonzai is currently experimenting with a bronco only ship to see if he's limited from finding any locations and my FC has managed to find Sectors 07, 08, 11 and 13 with only the Invincible parts (80 stats across the board).

It's not as simple as having a better forecastle helps. After our ships 5th orso trip to sector 07 we finally found sector 10, and we have had enterprise - invincible II forecastle for all trips.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

It's not as simple as having a better forecastle helps. After our ships 5th orso trip to sector 07 we finally found sector 10, and we have had enterprise - invincible II forecastle for all trips.

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Yeah, it is definitely not that simple. In fact, I don't think it is a simple as any one thing, it almost seems certain now that rng is involved. So many different theories have been tested, everything from what type of weather you get to what path you took to the unlocking sector. Although many people unlocked the sector after an adjustment of some type, it wasn't clear if any specific thing helped.

As for the forecastle, I think the main thing driving the theory is the theory itself XD Let's suppose that RNG is a factor. Some people have had trouble finding it, and so they get the recommendation to upgrade the forecastle. On the next trip, they find the sector \o/ this leads everyone to believe that the forecastle helped, when it isn't clear if it really had anything to do with it. The flipside is also true. Let's suppose that RNG and the forecastle are important, that the forecastle improves your odds but does not guarantee. Eventually you will find outliers who had an excellent forecastle and still really bad luck with finding a sector. This leads everyone to believe that the forecastle isn't important, when it actually does contribute.

If RNG adds a bit of "variance" to whether or not the forecastle (or anything) helps, we may not ever know how much without SE just telling us. The stats test that we would use is the chi-square test and we would need a ridiculously high sample size to test when there is this much variance. People can only discover a given sector once, so it isn't easy to gather data, and no matter what the results will be skewed (i'm actually thinking this fact would violate the assumptions of the chi-squared test, any stats experts out there care to comment?)

Either way, it may be a long time coming! I don't think it hurts to recommend the forecastle in the meantime, it gives people something to try. I just try to be sure in my guide that people know that we really don't know. XD

My experimental airship might help in this too. If I get all the way to the upper level sectors on just a bronco forecastle.... I think that would lend some support against the forecastle notion :D

Edit: if any part is guaranteed to help at least somewhat with sector discovery, it is actually the rigging! more trips in the same amount of time ;)

I'll just throw this out there I've unlocked sector 11 and still using a base Bronco.

Finally had time to input the mighty Altair into the logbook. Looking forward to adding more :)

so saw on fist page that 3rd airship is unlocked rom sector 14. I have this u nlocked and been there and no 3rd airship available.

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Originally Posted by eaglenitewillow

so saw on fist page that 3rd airship is unlocked rom sector 14. I have this u nlocked and been there and no 3rd airship available.

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This is good information. Would you have those logs to add to our spreadsheet? The other working theory for airships is visiting all of the bronze/silver/gold locations (as sector 8 was generally found to be the last bronze sector most people found).

Edit: I'm an idiot. Waring's original post mentioned not having sector 12 so it's not based on all silver/gold locations after all. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by eaglenitewillow

so saw on fist page that 3rd airship is unlocked rom sector 14. I have this u nlocked and been there and no 3rd airship available.

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Have you actually visited sector 14 yet?

lol re read and you have your answer. I going to check again tomorrow, have to wait for airships to get back. But yeah I have unlocked it and been there, more than once. Atm I have no option for a third airship to be registered. Going through the process of building an extra set of airship parts again and getting more flight credits again and see what happens.

To add to the materials list on the front page...

Sector 12 we got Synthetic Fiber and Chemically Treated Chimera Hides.
Sector 10 we got Magnanimous Mogcrowns.

Airship rank cap is 50!

http://i.imgur.com/vORXopV.png

So max capacity is 61, and the rank 45 ones take up 26 space a piece, which means min/max you can do two tatanora at (26+26) and then leaving the last 9 for one invincible (6) and one bronco (3)

Its possible there may be a rank unlock with visiting all known sectors or something, but ehhhhhhhhh.

Also no luck on V materia, sector 15 brought back savage aim IV :(

What are the current thoughts on each stats purpose?

To add to loot list: Sector 11 brings also Quicktongue IV

http://i.imgur.com/v0W3baJ.png

Hey guys, finally unlocked the next tier and made another parts spreadsheet of anyone needs it. Make sure to make a copy so your FC can collaborate!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Also the tip to go from 7 to 6 opened 8 up for us finally so we got our second airship! The U.S.S. Munchma'quchi is go!


/edit: How we do it is we share it, people who want to help get permission to edit, then they highlight a row, put their name by it, and then 0 out the totals as they add them to guild bank. Worked great for the last phase.

Hello Guys, need a little help there.

Our aircraft is rank 27 but we have not unlocked sector 7 and of course not sector 8 either. But i saw that many of you have already unlock sector 7 and 8 before the rank 30.
Something strange for us is that the game says the we cannot reach sector 7 before reaching rank 30, but it don't seems to be the case for all of you. Someone can explain me a bit ? I can also add some comments about what we have and such.

Thank you in advance for the help

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Hey thx for the answer.

Can't post a screenshot right now cause the aircraft is on a trip. but i will tomorrow. So far we have unlocked sectors 1 to 6 and sector 11 but we can't access him cause we have not reached rank 30 yet. As for the parts i will post a screenshot tomorrow too but for now we have 2 enterprise pieces and 2 invincible pieces, will post a screen tomorrow too.

For now we have :

Hull : Enterprise
Rigging : Invincible
Forecastle : Enterprise
Aftcastle : Invincible

For the current trip we have selected the sector 6 first, the sector 5 in second and the sector 4 at last. Hope we will discover the sector 7 when it comes back :/

Can you screen shot where it's telling you that? Are you using any of the parts beside Bronco? Some of the logic stuff seems to be working. So if you need 7, have you tried going from 5 to 10 if you have 10 open? Or the other way? 10 to 5? I didn't find 8 until I went 9 to 7 oddly.

http://puu.sh/jjxce/abd0bad435.jpg
S14 = Toybox schema
S13 = Synthetic Resin

nothing appeared in the log, but
http://puu.sh/jjxjP/3ca5c4365b.jpg
afterwards, airship 3 unlocked.
full enterprise parts, S14 > 11 > 13

Rank 23 airship with full upgrades.. still havent even unlocked sector 6 yet.. let alone 7 or 8....

What the hell am I doing wrong? Haven't been using any bronco parts for several levels now

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Originally Posted by Mayoyama

Rank 23 airship with full upgrades.. still havent even unlocked sector 6 yet.. let alone 7 or 8....

What the hell am I doing wrong? Haven't been using any bronco parts for several levels now

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Had the same problem, airship rank 20+ and no sector 6. What i did was to send the airship on sector 5 alone instead of multiple sectors to maxime exp, and it unlocked 6 and 7 togheter.

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Originally Posted by Mayoyama

Rank 23 airship with full upgrades.. still havent even unlocked sector 6 yet.. let alone 7 or 8....

What the hell am I doing wrong? Haven't been using any bronco parts for several levels now

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Just hang in there! It can take a few trips. Right now we are in the same position with sectors 13/14, have visited 11 4x times now with nothing to show for it!

To double check, you are visiting sector 5 on every trip?

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Originally Posted by Eldeniel

Hello Guys, need a little help there.

Our aircraft is rank 27 but we have not unlocked sector 7 and of course not sector 8 either. But i saw that many of you have already unlock sector 7 and 8 before the rank 30.
Something strange for us is that the game says the we cannot reach sector 7 before reaching rank 30, but it don't seems to be the case for all of you. Someone can explain me a bit ? I can also add some comments about what we have and such.

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Just hang in there, it can take a few trips and a bit of luck! Some people seem to get it right away and for some people it takes longer.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

What are the current thoughts on each stats purpose?

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My theories are in the OP but i'm also really curious what other people are thinking about this too!

I swear, I'm still waiting for this lumber...

Now we are rank 29 and still no sector 7 unlocked... we're doing this since 2 weeks and still nothing :/

Maybe we should try a trip only to sector 5 ?

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Originally Posted by Eldeniel

Now we are rank 29 and still no sector 7 unlocked... we're doing this since 2 weeks and still nothing :/

Maybe we should try a trip only to sector 5 ?

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A trip only to sector 5 isn't a bad idea, just because it will take less time. If you have to you can do multiple quick trips to give yourself more chances at unlocking.

Hi hi, only recently noticed this thread and now wanting to help contribute to the cause!

We have a Rank 44 airship with All enterprise pieces but a Invinicible-II Forecastle, here's what our most recent voyage brought us.

http://i.imgur.com/oZsND4A.png

Route and findings:

Sector 14 - Aetherochemical Fiber
Sector 9 - Balsa Wood Lumber, Quickarm III Materia
Sector 13 - Craftsman Competence IV, Craftsman Cunning IV

http://i.imgur.com/cBOEswZ.png

Although log doesn't show it. It wasn't until we finished exploring Sector 9 that we gained permission to get a 3rd airship.

Just changed out the Enterprise Hull for Invinicible-II for our next voyage, can't wait to report next findings.