[dev1135] UI Adjustments (09/12/2011)

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Originally Posted by viion

I thought this "Optimal" system was being phased out, so what is the point in all this colouring if soon it will all be restricted to required level anyway? Is it not?

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No, that was a oopsie on the part of bay.

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Originally Posted by viion

I thought this "Optimal" system was being phased out, so what is the point in all this colouring if soon it will all be restricted to required level anyway? Is it not?

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Turns out to be some type of error in translation. The new recipes are still going to make the same "Optimal Level" gear. What they were trying to say was they intended on keeping NM and Instance Raid gear level locked and class locked.

I am so happy with these changes. to finally be able to map my kb is a big step in the right direction for me and im sure every other kb user out there.

Yo Rubicon did you play FFXI and if so was it under that name and what server?

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Turns out to be some type of error in translation. The new recipes are still going to make the same "Optimal Level" gear. What they were trying to say was they intended on keeping NM and Instance Raid gear level locked and class locked.

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Ah thank you =)

I vote for green.

Greeeen =D

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Originally Posted by viion

I thought this "Optimal" system was being phased out, so what is the point in all this colouring if soon it will all be restricted to required level anyway? Is it not?

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No
They haven't said that they delete all optimal rank gear, just some

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Originally Posted by Naylia

I am concerned that the UI team had to ask us this question...

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They're just making sure. For all they know they would choose green and there would be an outcry here "OMG I HAET GREEN PLZ GIVE US AN OPSHUN TO CHANG IT BACK".

This is the largest group of neophobes ever assembled.

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Originally Posted by Elgorian

First I want to say, I love everything coming with these updates.

As a controller user I'm looking forward to being able to get to the micro menu easier as well as being able to toggle macro pages to stay open as opposed to having to hold the button ^^.

Now one suggestion I have:

I noticed that the font size is getting upgraded. Well I was wondering if we could have a way to increase the size of the party HP bars. I honestly hate healing just because the bars are so tiny. I know you can move them around on screen but I've never been able to expand them (maybe I'm doing it wrong.) but being able to make these bigger would be a big help for me, and I'm sure that others would like to be able to change the size as well.

Other than that I'm loving these UI Adjustments and hope you guys keep up all the awesome work! :D

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Agreed. I want bigger HP bars

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

They're just making sure. For all they know they would choose green and there would be an outcry here "OMG I HAET GREEN PLZ GIVE US AN OPSHUN TO CHANG IT BACK".

This is the largest group of neophobes ever assembled.

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I tend to change my mind on what colour I want things to be quite often.

I'm hoping one day they add a tool that allows me to choose the colour of windows, fonts and borders on the UI.

That's hoping, not demanding, not expecting, it's just be nice to have. If they never add it, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

I feel like the proposed coloring of names to identify level of rarity is a little boring.

I think it would be nice to have something where the text is nicer than just having a color change...like an embossed and shiny text or something like that, that gives it a little luster and lets you know it's special.

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Originally Posted by Naylia

I feel like the proposed coloring of names to identify level of rarity is a little boring.

I think it would be nice to have something where the text is nicer than just having a color change...like an embossed and shiny text or something like that, that gives it a little luster and lets you know it's special.

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A cluster of sparkly coloured stars revolving around the items icon to signify it's rarity?

Not rare = Nothing
Uncommon = single star rotation around icon
Rare = a few stars sparkling outwards from the icon
Superfly = Full blown starburst effect

Good choice devs, but again, don't forget us colour blind people!

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

Nooooooooooooooooo!

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Dargoth, I told you once already about the ridiculous My Little Pony signature. You're grown a$$ man. Man up and get rid of that signature. We're taking your man card away until you make the change.

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Originally Posted by Bittereye

Dargoth, I told you once already about the ridiculous My Little Pony signature. You're grown a$$ man. Man up and get rid of that signature. We're taking your man card away until you make the change.

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*starts singing Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror*

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Originally Posted by Bittereye

Dargoth, I told you once already about the ridiculous My Little Pony signature. You're grown a$$ man. Man up and get rid of that signature. We're taking your man card away until you make the change.

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Now if you'll excuse him, he's going to go back to playing his child-sized character online. ;)

Everything sounds good. Im just still waiting on an automatic macro system where my skill configuration for a specific class are automatically saved whenever I switch classes. Very annoying to keep rewriting them every other week.

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Originally Posted by Bittereye

Dargoth, I told you once already about the ridiculous My Little Pony signature. You're grown a$$ man. Man up and get rid of that signature. We're taking your man card away until you make the change.

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Pffft. This proves beyond the doubt that I am man amongst men. Unlike you I can admit I like something cute and funny and post it as my sig as proof. I ain't gonna change it because ain't comfortable with your sexuality bro.

Funny thing is I was getting ready to change it, but now since you said that it just gained another week of life.

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Good choice devs, but again, don't forget us colour blind people!

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Yeah.... THIS!!!!! ^

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Six or more levels above character level : Optimal Level 35
Up to five levels above character level : Optimal Level 35
Equal to character level : Optimal Level 35 (No color change - White)
Up to five levels below character level : Optimal Level 35
Six or more levels below character level : Optimal Level 35

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This is what makes the most sense to me.

There needs to be some distinction between equal to, and less than. Otherwise people will just think wearing something five levels early is just as good as the optimal level.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

NOOOOOOOO! Give us the ability to change the colors to what we want them to be, makes more sense! You give us the options for everything else, yet limit us on the one I actually want to change. F*** Green

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/facepalm (!!!)

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

/facepalm (!!!)

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:) :) :) /10Characters

I don't understand why you would highlight being below your rank as an issue.

Depending on your build, that may be the best item available. Why should all of my stuff be colored as "you're doing it wrong", when I'm doing it exactly right? :confused:

Yoshida made a comment about the upcoming classification of equipment using a color-coded system in the upcoming patch that I wanted to share with you all.

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

The best part about this new feature is that a "simplified universal language" for the player community will be established. MMORPGs have a real time aspect compared to stand alone RPGs for consoles, thus have more complex specs. If the MMORPG carries on for a long time, thousands of items may be implemented.

As the number of items increases, their names tend to become longer, and if the items can be upgraded, statuses will increase, so the whole situation becomes very complicated.

Players who are new to Eorzea will not know which items to choose out of the many possibilities when trying to equip gear to strengthen their characters. Especially for suggested gear, it is difficult to distinguish whether the gear is appropriate or not.

Therefore, new players may ask their fellow LS members or experienced players questions such as:
"Which gear should I equip?"
"I got this weapon during a quest, but is it strong?"

In this instance, it is very difficult to type in an item with a very long name or explain to a new player the effects of a weapon. We would like new players to simply enjoy Eorzea quickly, and learn the more complicated nuances over time.

It would be best to provide simple answers such as:
"Um, you should be fine if you equip items that are green to you! :)"
"When your gear becomes weak, it will turn grey, so you should look for new gear when that happens! :D"
"As long as you do that, in the early stages it is OK to select your gear based on appearance! :p"
"Items that have their name displayed in blue are very good, so don’t sell them or throw them away!"

MMORPGs are games that cannot function without the player community. I think that it is very important for these games to have a "concise universal language that is easy to understand."

Thus if we allow the option to turn this feature ON/OFF, a universal language will not be established. If this setting is not at least set to ON by default, there would be no purpose in implementing this.

The fact that all of you are playing Final Fantasy with passion and pride is very clear to us developers. We, the development team, and the operations team will continue to develop/operate the game with passion and pride.

We understand very well, that some players will have the opinion:
"I don’t want the aesthetic aspect of the game to be hindered by making the game too colorful!"

However, we believe that implementing this feature is necessary so that the "Final Fantasy MMORPG" is easier to understand and friendlier for the players.

I am sure that conversations similar to the ones I have posted will take place over chat following implementation. When that happens, I will be happy if you think back on this post. :o

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In this instance, it is very difficult to type in an item with a very long name or explain to a new player the effects of a weapon.

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Lol this made me giggle. If someone has trouble typing, what on earth are they doing playing an MMO in the first place?

Still, +1 to the post and thank you, Bayohne.

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

Lol this made me giggle. If someone has trouble typing, what on earth are they doing playing an MMO in the first place?

Still, +1 to the post and thank you, Bayohne.

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Why kind of sword is he planning anyways?? The Fear Not For Whom The Bell Tolls It Tolls For Thee Sword? :p

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

Lol this made me giggle. If someone has trouble typing, what on earth are they doing playing an MMO in the first place?

Still, +1 to the post and thank you, Bayohne.

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I think the point is more along the lines of instead of answering that question with "At level X you should look into Items A, B, or C because (long-winded game mechanics)" (I have done this :() you can simply say "look for gear that is Green" without overwhelming newbies.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

I think the point is more along the lines of instead of answering that question with "At level X you should look into Items A, B, or C because (long-winded game mechanics)" (I have done this :() you can simply say "look for gear that is Green" without overwhelming newbies.

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Yea I understand the reason for the decision, but maybe I should have bolded the spelling long words part lol. Made me /facepalm for a minute xD

My bad, I'm too used to people missing the point and freaking out about dev posts =X, not that you were =P

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Thus if we allow the option to turn this feature ON/OFF, a universal language will not be established. If this setting is not at least set to ON by default, there would be no purpose in implementing this.

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I dont remember anyone saying they wanted to disable the color coding feature, juse the XP popups that are being added

Though... the question usually isn't which gear is my level, the question is, which one is best. I myself feel like the long winded explanation was always fun ^^ Made the high knowledgeable players feel like they were smart and helpful and the low leveled players felt warmly overwhelmed and now they have a new friend which they'll ask questions to nonstop!

This will be convenient for people just rushing through the game and don't care about stats too much.

Completely agree, love the colour system, its always the quiest way "Got full blue set =D" even in XI they'd say like "whitebox" or just "box" for hq items.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Why kind of sword is he planning anyways?? The Fear Not For Whom The Bell Tolls It Tolls For Thee Sword? :p

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Yes, please! I'll take one!

It saves you trouble to explain to 'that' party member/ls mate/random noob that you can't be bothered to go deep into mechanics.

When you min-max item names will be important. If not? Greens/Blues are good.

I like colour system 4 gear, what about the same one for mobs? :cool:

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Why kind of sword is he planning anyways?? The Fear Not For Whom The Bell Tolls It Tolls For Thee Sword? :p

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One does not simply walk into Mordhona Sword

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Yoshida made a comment about the upcoming classification of equipment using a color-coded system in the upcoming patch that I wanted to share with you all.

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Now all that needs to be done is to create a system that addresses,

How do I shot Battle Regimen?

... and we're set.

Thank you for making it easier for unfamiliar players to get into this game.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Why kind of sword is he planning anyways?? The Fear Not For Whom The Bell Tolls It Tolls For Thee Sword? :p

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Obviously SAM is coming. Go look up names of GKT from XI. =P

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Originally Posted by Finuve

I dont remember anyone saying they wanted to disable the color coding feature, juse the XP popups that are being added

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Yeah, I can see how people would not like that, but so far every single UI or icon addition to the game have been given customization options to activate and deactivate it. Can't see why this XP options wouldn't.