Novus weapon upgrade system findings

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Originally Posted by Mithent

Healers will keep their accuracy because, for them, it's a bonus stat that helps to stop them missing hopelessly often, rather than being an important stat to max for jobs that expect to reliably hit things every time, I'd think.

As for losing it on your weapon - it depends on the cap for what you're doing and the rest of your gear. It's important to have enough that you don't miss, but a waste to have any more than that.

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More or less; healer weapon accuracy stays put because it's an extra "free" stat so that healers can be slightly more effective when it comes to landing dots or DPSing in hard content (since they don't otherwise gear for accuracy). That accuracy doesn't affect the stat budget for the other stats on the item. Basically, you still have 75 other stat points to customize, even with the accuracy there.

That's why I'll also let other do the "theorycraft" about which stat combo is the best for each job....not going to waste time/gil doing a +44crit / +31det to later find out you gimped yourself and your DGN/MNK/BRD needed other mixture of melds.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Found some info on Reddit.... but I guess people haven't had the time to get more than a few Alex to check. But to me it seems like we will need 75+ Alex to get it done, Unless higher Tiers will give you more than one point per materia. If we do only get 1 point per meld then down the road SE needs to tie relics to end game and make them top tier. Because this is a huge grind.

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from what i can tell it is more time consuming then anything. if that is the case i do not think they should ever be made better then the latest weapons from the Binding Coil.

So I apologize if this question has been asked and answered....I can't read through this many pages of a thread while working at the same time :\

I get how the secondary stat upgrades work with the sphere scrolls. I have been able to see enough about that to understand it. My question is this: I main BRD, and my secondary stats on Artemis Animus are Accuracy and Skill Speed. What if I want to change Skill Speed, but keep Accuracy? Do I have to use a scroll to rebuild Accuracy from scratch, do I get a scroll for Accuracy that starts at 40 (the # you attain for having Animus), or do I not even have to get a scroll for this stat and it will upgrade on its own after I am done upgrading the other stat of my choice?

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

from what i can tell it is more time consuming then anything. if that is the case i do not think they should ever be made better then the latest weapons from the Binding Coil.

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Both are time consuming and with luck on your side it will be faster to get a high allagan weapon. With T9 weapons all you need to do is learn the fight and hope you have a good static to beat it. Relic is a huge time investment, I'm sure there will be a few people done with it by Saturday. But I don't see why SE can't at some point make both Relic and End Game weapons the same ilvl for future content.

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Originally Posted by Prototype909

This whole Atma/Animus/Novus thing has gone from simply being a ridiculous time-sink to now being an -extremely- ridiculous time and now gil sink.

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Don't be the one to go rush and try and buy up tons of materias from the MB. Need to start of with lower Tiers. So give it a week or so and the prices should drop. I would say I feel bad but some people on my server bought T4 materias for like 600k...

This whole Atma/Animus/Novus thing has gone from simply being a ridiculous time-sink to now being an -extremely- ridiculous time and now gil sink.

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

So I apologize if this question has been asked and answered....I can't read through this many pages of a thread while working at the same time :\

I get how the secondary stat upgrades work with the sphere scrolls. I have been able to see enough about that to understand it. My question is this: I main BRD, and my secondary stats on Artemis Animus are Accuracy and Skill Speed. What if I want to change Skill Speed, but keep Accuracy? Do I have to use a scroll to rebuild Accuracy from scratch, do I get a scroll for Accuracy that starts at 40 (the # you attain for having Animus), or do I not even have to get a scroll for this stat and it will upgrade on its own after I am done upgrading the other stat of my choice?

Thanks,

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This is more ore less what I was asking also. It's the same with Curtana.. I like Parry and ACC for Curtana, but it sounds like you have to build them up from scratch again for some silly reason?

Well, i've been at work all day. But after reading through this thread, it sounds like I'm shifting 100% of my attention to downing and farming T9. Cause eff this.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

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well there WILL be a point where Binding Coil will stop. at some point Bahamut will have to rear his ugly head and get defeated. i would suspect if Relic weapons ever surpass Allagan weapons it won't be till sometime after the final Coil. sure the Relic weapon is time consuming. but that is about it. the gil to buy a weapon with T3 materia slotted now is hardly even sizable anymore. plus the Atma thing will change in the future. so it takes a minimal amount of effort. huge time & some gil here and there.

on the other hand just forming a static group alone can be difficult. and may take some time to get a reliable group on a reliable schedule. not everyone is good at that sort of thing. so most people will either scout out a recruit ad or wait for someone to pick them up. and some groups may only play once per week. but if the group works, beggars can't be choosers. and then you have to practice it enough to get it on farm status. PLUS every turn before it in the same Coil. and isn't there a weekly lock out?

IMO, it takes more commitment, effort and skill to be farming the High Allagan weapons.

Anyone got a drop from a fate yet? Can you do level sync fates?

Just purchased every teir 1 savage aim material on the market board and relisted for 5 times what I paid. Have already made back what I spent and have 41 materia left. LMAO.

I suddenly love this game and its impatient user base again! >:)

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Originally Posted by Prototype909

This whole Atma/Animus/Novus thing has gone from simply being a ridiculous time-sink to now being an -extremely- ridiculous time and now gil sink.

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I'm loving it! To all those people on these forums who kept complaining that "gil is useless": {Congratulations!} You've gotten what you wished for.

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Originally Posted by Elway358

Just purchased every teir 1 savage aim material on the market board and relisted for 5 times what I paid. Have already made back what I spent and have 41 materia left. LMAO.

I suddenly love this game and its impatient user base again! >:)

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Damn you for being on my server and damn me for being at work!

Can you stack Alexandrites and the maps that grant them? If so it's better to just farm those for the time being and sb while everyone else give their money to the one who wiped the markets clean after the update.

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Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz

It has to change. The reason ATMA/Animus didnt, was due to the fact they were both same ilvl.

This is a genuine jump.

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It did jump when you converted you Atma weapon to Animus at the end of the book process, but not when it initially went from Zenith to Atma.

Four infusions so far and was only able to do Tier 1 Materia.

Another grind that I anticipate most the people I run across will ignore....

But hopefully for those that do it, you get a spiffy new looking weapon!

Anyone know if the FATES are any FATES aslong as your equipped with an Animus? been doing FATES for 4 hrs so far and nothing

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Originally Posted by Shea

Four infusions so far and was only able to do Tier 1 Materia.

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Music to my ears :D

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Originally Posted by Shinun

Anyone know if the FATES are any FATES aslong as your equipped with an Animus? been doing FATES for 4 hrs so far and nothing

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Ouch fate one hour no drop, I think I might go back to myth farming, that seems more reliable.

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Originally Posted by Shea

Four infusions so far and was only able to do Tier 1 Materia.

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I am very curious how far you go with Tier 1 materia before you need Tier 2. And so on and so forth for each tier.

so now it takes 60k myth for novus? 75*800

lol to those who flamed bout 13500 myths :P in ya face

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Originally Posted by SpawnXIII

Have any of them dropped in success rate? And have you farmed any in fates?

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Got 2 maps from daily, 2 from myth purchase. Yes the success rate is dropping if I recall last one was like 80% success rate.

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Originally Posted by Shea

Got 2 maps from daily, 2 from myth purchase. Yes the success rate is dropping if I recall last one was like 80% success rate.

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Holy gil sink, Batman! I'm glad I bought out all the tier 1 Savage Aim on my server!

inc 8% or lower with IV's at skyrocketed prices.

So your telling me, after 13,500 myth, 18 hours of atma farming, and another 20 hours to do the books


I Get EVEN MORE MYTH FARMING! (Take into account the free map everyday, along side farming 800 myth everything single day not skipping a day, It's well over a month)
Not to mention the MASSIVE Gil sink for materia (The prices may drop a bit, but for a long time its going to be just ridiculously expensive, and for people who don't care to craft, will be almost unreal)
And Don't forget after hours of farming up for one map, getting the Alexandrite, Buying the Materia (Or SB, if you can afford to do that, and good rng) you may loose them to a failed meld. So Screw you, go make another million and farm a few hours.

This has got to be the worst idea for a Relic I have ever seen. I'm sorry, but downing t9 is a heck of a lot faster than doing this, and getting a better weapon out of it. This weapon should ascend High Allagan, but it never will, and we are not even done with the grind once you finish the madness of this one. At least in 11 you knew you were getting the best of the best. With this, you're getting no matter what a weaker weapon, and people call it (casual weapons!) By the time the i115 version hits, i125 with new coil will be on its way in. THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU SHOULD DESIGN RELICS! I don't mind a meaty quest that gives me a long term goal, but all I'm getting in return for this absolutely ridiculous gil/time sink is a slightly better upgraded weathered weapon, which by the way, getting your turn 8 weapon is EVEN FASTER than doing this questline. /rant

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Got 2 maps from daily, 2 from myth purchase. Yes the success rate is dropping if I recall last one was like 80% success rate.

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How do you get 2 maps from daily?

one for reset and one after.

btw, any get an alex from a fate allready?

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Originally Posted by Senshi_Tsuyo

How do you get 2 maps from daily?

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Servers came up at 0710 EST, did daily map quest before they went back down. Reset happens at 1100 EST.

OOOOOOOOHH Got it

3 pm gmt is reset, he did one before and one after

It's a lot less work to get an allagen tomestone weapon and sand then it is to do all the novus stuff. But I am going to do novus anyway because this is the only weapon they keep upgrading.

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Originally Posted by ZeroRains

So your telling me, after 13,500 myth, 18 hours of atma farming, and another 20 hours to do the books


I Get EVEN MORE MYTH FARMING! (Take into account the free map everyday, along side farming 800 myth everything single day not skipping a day, It's well over a month)
Not to mention the MASSIVE Gil sink for materia (The prices may drop a bit, but for a long time its going to be just ridiculously expensive, and for people who don't care to craft, will be almost unreal)

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Bla bla bla...
You don't have to get it in a day, week or even a month...
If you finish it by the time 2.4 hits, you're not behind at all, and that's expected to be more than 3 months from now.

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Originally Posted by Shea

Got 2 maps from daily, 2 from myth purchase. Yes the success rate is dropping if I recall last one was like 80% success rate.

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You did 4 melds and the success is already 80%?.....when you do meld 72 it'll be like 5% lol!!!!!

About the Alexandrite from FATEs, Yes, it does drop. Two friends were doing fates at Aleport area after fed up with myth runs, one of them got lucky and got it.

I'm guessing you can only get maps And alexandrite if you have an animus weapon? I I don't even have my Atma weapon. I don't want to be left behind like. Would be cool if I can stock up on it.

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Originally Posted by melflomil

I'm guessing you can only get maps And alexandrite if you have an animus weapon? I I don't even have my Atma weapon. I don't want to be left behind like. Would be cool if I can stock up on it.

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Since map (both quested and myth bought) can only be gotten after you do a certain quest that requires you have animus, that's not an option for you.
Alexandrites from FATEs are also not an option by the patch notes that say they can only drop if you have an animus equipped.

The only thing left for you is to collect materia.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

Since map (both quested and myth bought) can only be gotten after you do a certain quest that requires you have animus, that's not an option for you.
Alexandrites from FATEs are also not an option by the patch notes that say they can only drop if you have an animus equipped.

The only thing left for you is to collect materia.

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bah. I have 8 Atma man this is going to be long. I have to much materia lol. I think I'll make money and worry about this later. I don't mind spiritbonding gear. Thanks for the reply

the in-game explanation for this weapon are SO BAD!

I stated several times that I don't mind grindy stuff, I actually liked the Atma-Animus proccess. However, I have mixed feelings about this one. If you improve the scroll POINT BY POINT through 72 Alexandrites (If you're lucky, because the % drops with each attempt) and making sure you're stacking the RIGHT stats in the weapon...

I know it's a long process and I don't want this weapon handled so easy. If I think about it, getting the ilvl 110 sold weapon or, even beating the final boss in T9 and getting its weapon, is easier than this. If they include the sands and oils drops in the actual CT, getting the ilvl 110 weapon will be a lot easier for most people. Now, let alone the materias, if these are tier 1 only, you can easily spiritbond low level gear, but... if you go 1/1 with the maps (Dailies and myth farming), you need like 28.800 myth tomes and 36 daily quests. It doesn't sound so terrifying considering the fact that SE wants this quest to be a time sink between patches and I will probably do it!!! I hope things go better when they make the Alexandrite a most frequent drop.