SE, Please increase primal drops or add Token System

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Originally Posted by Atrious

You know whats funny? Its the LUCKY people that get it on first run that are the first to say no to the tokens.

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Originally Posted by minihalcyon

No tokens. This is coming from someone who ran ifrit dozens of times to get the two weapons that I do have back in 1.0, before SE implemented a tokens system. Never got my Mog weapon back then, but I'm not crying about it.

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LOL!

Not that I think tokens are instant gratification, but the luck thing applies to everyone. I may get lucky with a Bow today, but take forever with the next item. RNG is more exciting and masks the grind with anticipation. Tokens make it a boring grind after the first run.

"Will I get it this time!?" > "6 down 24 to go..." dont care if I end up doing it 100 times.

Like I said before, maybe they should up the chances or drop more at a time ... but tokens suck. Why would you want end game to be so streamlined anyway? So you can grind your monotonous predetermined amount then cry about how you have nothing to do?

Ugh....what is it with people and trying to create babies first MMO. I got my weapon on the 40th or so run and I was never once actually frustrated when it did not drop or did and I did not get it. It is a game, if a game makes you mad stop playing do not ask for it to be easier. A token system would ruin these fights, I hate the fact that the item level 90 gear is on a token system because I had to calculate out the number of runs I had to do on things and its just so blegh....I prefer just to have luck be on my side maybe and I might get it I might not, sure I may have to run something 100 times, but at least I get the possibility of getting something so I have something to get me through this run and not just...hey...more tokens...woooooooooo.

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Originally Posted by BlaiseArath

My post was actually made with the intent to say a mix of both would be the best course of action, Simply not making Tokens a "run and done" easy way, but instead a farther off Obtainable goal, where RNG May favor you before you earn the tokens but if you get so unlucky to say.. 0/20 or 0/30 then You'd have earned the tokens to buy the weapon.

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Make it 45 tokens, with a cap on 15/week. This way each week you have the chance to get your weapon and, if you end up getting it before you hit 45 tokens, you can then use those tokens to acquire another Primal weapon from that token system after three weeks. Or, you can make it a month, and have it require 60 tokens. 1 month, or you can spend your life away dashing yourselves against the mountain of the RNG Gods.

GC 50 weapon is 1 damage less than ifrits, you can beat titan with it, meaning you can get a relic. You never need to farm any primal for drops, pick up 50 GC weapon and get your relic.

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Originally Posted by Hirosashi

Ugh....what is it with people and trying to create babies first MMO. I got my weapon on the 40th or so run and I was never once actually frustrated when it did not drop or did and I did not get it. It is a game, if a game makes you mad stop playing do not ask for it to be easier. A token system would ruin these fights, I hate the fact that the item level 90 gear is on a token system because I had to calculate out the number of runs I had to do on things and its just so blegh....I prefer just to have luck be on my side maybe and I might get it I might not, sure I may have to run something 100 times, but at least I get the possibility of getting something so I have something to get me through this run and not just...hey...more tokens...woooooooooo.

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We're not all kids anyone. We have jobs, families, less time to play.

Honestly if an 8man is only dropping one thing, that's a failure of the system.

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Originally Posted by Ahlen

We're not all kids anyone. We have jobs, families, less time to play.

Honestly if an 8man is only dropping one thing, that's a failure of the system.

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I see where your coming from, I have a job and a son I get maybe 3 hours a night during the work week. Its just so short for a good weapon 20 minutes tops, The GC weapons are only slightly lower stat wise, the Ifrit weapons are basically purely ascetic weapons. The appeal to collecting them is basically just that they are so hard to get.

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

I've gone over 30 runs and saw only BLM weapons drop outside of 1 PLD and 2 DRG. I'd say wanting my weapon via tokens by this point is by no means instant gratification.

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I'm so sorry that it has taken you more than one whole week to get the weapon you want. i take back all of what i said about all of my ifrit/moogle fights over several months running at least four fights, up to fifteen a day. you are right, demanding your specific weapon in one day or one week is in no way instant gratification.
After all, you should get what you want and not find some friends who can run it together until everyone there gets what they need. that would be silly

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Originally Posted by Huginn

After all, you should get what you want and not find some friends who can run it together until everyone there gets what they need. that would be silly

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Wait... weren't you the one that posted in the shard thread about long it takes to get shards? And how mind numbing it is to level gathering classes especially on shards?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1289516
That is you, right?
Because I can also you can gather friends together and get a ton of shards together until you all get the amount of shards you need.

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Originally Posted by nasomi

Why? so you can get your weapon,t hen start a thread in a week called "i'm bored there's nothing to do i'm quitting"?

The fun isn't "hey look at my weapon", it's partying and working together at a chance, then when you get it, you feel like you earned a reward. I'm tired of this "everyone gets a trophy" mentality.

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^This guy knows what he is talking about.
Everyone else in the first page... wrong

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Originally Posted by nasomi

Why? so you can get your weapon,t hen start a thread in a week called "i'm bored there's nothing to do i'm quitting"?

The fun isn't "hey look at my weapon", it's partying and working together at a chance, then when you get it, you feel like you earned a reward. I'm tired of this "everyone gets a trophy" mentality.

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You have a strange idea of fun. For me the enjoyment comes from having the weapon and playing content once the chore of weapon farming is over... guess some people will just qq if they can't chase the shiny objects. Kinda sad, really.

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Originally Posted by minihalcyon

No tokens. This is coming from someone who ran ifrit dozens of times to get the two weapons that I do have back in 1.0, before SE implemented a tokens system. Never got my Mog weapon back then, but I'm not crying about it.

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Tokens plz. This is coming from someone who killed Ifrit over 100 times to get his damn BLM cudgel (though, go figure -- I have both of the tank weapons...I think YoshiP is trying to bribe me :D ). I only saw the drop twice, and the first one I lost the roll.