Poor performance from a high-end build?

solid 60 fps till you look at the direction of that aerthryte, and its a killer goes as low as 28 fps on a i7 3770k @4.5ghz, gtx 690 340.29 drivers and samsung 840 ssd

by the way.

there are a couple things that will help you out with your fps until they optimize the engine a little.


Occlusion is the big one, this disables rendering objects that you arent looking at. it has no effect on your visuals and will increase your FPS by a lot.

shadow resolution and shadow cascading to normal. that will help as well.

under display options turn off frame limiter. if youre sensitive to tearing like i am turn on vsync and triple buffering through catalyst or nvidia control panel.

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Originally Posted by KMarsara

solid 60 fps till you look at the direction of that aerthryte, and its a killer goes as low as 28 fps on a i7 3770k @4.5ghz, gtx 690 340.29 drivers and samsung 840 ssd

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That's a separate issue of simply those areas being congested with player characters and objects that are rendered by the CPU. What we're describing is that in open areas with no visual activity on screen, panning the camera depletes performance to unnatural levels - and by pan I don't mean 360, 180 or even 90 degrees. A simple flick of the mouse or analogue stick and NOSE DIVE goes the FPS.

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Originally Posted by Dremic

by the way.

there are a couple things that will help you out with your fps until they optimize the engine a little.


Occlusion is the big one, this disables rendering objects that you arent looking at. it has no effect on your visuals and will increase your FPS by a lot.

shadow resolution and shadow cascading to normal. that will help as well.

under display options turn off frame limiter. if youre sensitive to tearing like i am turn on vsync and triple buffering through catalyst or nvidia control panel.

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Yes, not so much and yes you can disable any frame limit/vsync in game and use one at the driver level. However I haven't seen any noteable difference in performance or smoothness via one method over the other.

i7-4770K @ 4.8 does just fine. :) Seriously though, I wonder how well (if there would be any benifit) one of those new 9k AMDs or an IB-E would play.

Edit: Anything past your monitors refresh rate is a waste. Sometimes people forget this.

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That's a separate issue of simply those areas being congested with player characters and objects that are rendered by the CPU. What we're describing is that in open areas with no visual activity on screen, panning the camera depletes performance to unnatural levels - and by pan I don't mean 360, 180 or even 90 degrees. A simple flick of the mouse or analogue stick and NOSE DIVE goes

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After testing on two different systems (and i7 960@3.6ghz with a gtx 770 and an i7 3770k stock with a gtx 760)

I think both issues are actually related. I get the same drop when panning, particularly when panning while facing the general direction of any quest hub. EVEN when the hub is a mile away and not visible.

Yet when I'm in the thick of the action/crowds in the quest hub my FPS on both systems are 40-50 fps sometimes. I agree, this game is well optimized in some ways, but in other cases, Somthing needs to be tweaked. (drivers or optimizations made by the developers)

My guess is that the game is loading/caching and rendering assets that the player does not see, and it's being done in some cases,unnecessarily which causes even good setups with OCs to chug.

I'm not opposed to OCing a system for performance, but an i7 quad core or an i5 should not be to blame of there is Somthing that needs fixing in the game.

Same thing is happening to me. I got like 8k on the benchmark using mobility radeon hd 5870 crossfire. I can get a solid 60 fps for awhile, even if crazy fates....nothing even changes in the environment around me and I drop to 16 fps....I already posted about this on the forums awhile back. Uninstalled and reinstalled my drivers, got the 13.8 beta drivers....still nothing =/ I dunno what it is.

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Originally Posted by VeeGeeTea

Before you go and spend your savings on new computer components, consider getting yourself adequate power supplies and cooling.
Add exception in anti-virus/anti-adware for FFXIV.exe or the FFXIV folder altogether.
Put Windows 7 in performance mode so you're not wasting resources on the actual o/s look and feel.
Update to current graphic adapter driver.
Turn off all background software that you may have running (Skype, utorrent, etc.)

Also try pulling out a stick of ram to see if that is the cause, if you're lagging even more then it means you're in need of more ram.

SSD doesn't affect gameplay at all, it only affects loading time between maps and instances.
SSD won't be able to perform if you lack ram or cpu power as well.

Make sure you have enough power going into your pc, plug directly to the wall outlet rather than going through a power bar (power bar has wattage limitation).
If you don't have enough power, you won't be able to drive any power hungry pc components like cpu and gpu.

Apply new thermal paste every 6 months or so and clean out the dust from your PC as it will cause venting problems.
If your pc isn't venting, then the components would be easily overheat, thus slowing down performance.

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It's quite obvious you don't know very much about computers. Most of the stuff you're spewing is completely irrelevant, or the textbook answer that a tech support agent would read off from their script. The other portion of your comments are completely off base and dead wrong/stupid.
OPs power supply is perfectly fine. You don't need 1000w to run most computers. Your 1000w PSU is overkill for your machine. Also, if you're plugging your $500-$2000 computer directly into the wall, you're a complete numbskull and don't deserve to own a computer. Get a quality APC SURGE PROTECTOR, not a "power bar" from the dollar store.

Reapplying thermal paste is not necessary unless you're having cooling problems, or you have taken off your heatsink. And the only reason you have to(you actually don't HAVE to) change it after removing your heatsink is to ensure that you have enough compound still there when reinstalling the heatsink.

Airflow is also a non-issue. Unless OP is getting overheating problems, he should not have to check and make sure hes cleaned the dust from his machine. A proper suggestion would be "check to make sure you're not overheating" Then if he is, you can suggest thermal paste/airflow/dust checking.

You mentioned in another post the need for more RAM. Being as that most games (including this one) are 32-bit, it is limited to up to 4GB of ram access. It simply has no clue that there is more RAM there to use. So your 32GB of ram is not going to perform any better than OP's or my 8gb of ram while playing FFXIV.

There's so many other things you've said in this topic that I would love to touch upon.. but I just don't have the time or motivation.

To other readers, don't listen to a thing VeeGeeTea says regarding technology. Apparently his VeeGeeTea is making him loopy. helluva drug.

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Originally Posted by Phont

Build:

MOBO: z77 fatal1ty performance

GPU: GeForce GTX 670

CPU: i5-3570k @ 3.4ghz

RAM: 8GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance

PSU: TX-Series 750W Corsair

OS: Windows 7 64-bit Home Edition


With my specs, I can't even run the game on High (Desktop) with a stable 60 frames. It's very unstable in cities which is somewhat expected, but even outside the city questing I get this same problem. I use Unigine to benchmark my GPU considering the Extreme HD feature on it pushes your GPU to its limits. Having FPS between 35-40 means you can generally run any modern game at 60+ FPS.

Unigine Extreme HD Benchmark:

FPS:
40.5
Score:
1695
Min FPS:
22.0
Max FPS:
76.6

My computer can run other games perfectly fine such as Saints Row 3 and Skyrim on Ultra. I understand MMOs can not necessarily be compared with non-MMO games in terms of performance, but this game is decently optimized from what I've been told.

I have the latest beta drivers for my GPU and I have even freshly installed Windows 7 trying to find some sort of problem that I could fix.

My temperatures are fine when running as well. My CPU stays at about 40C and my GPU runs at about 50C.

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that not high end build yet. for pure performance use windows 64bit ultimate version. hardware cant full perform with home basic. gtx 670 what model? im only use gtx 260 old model can perform maximum graphic without lagging. amd core is better to accelerate and maintain FPS. but importance is your GC spec. if only 1-2gb ddr5 128 bit still can get full perform. try to get above 256bit for your gc. my gc just need a bit tweak OC with crosshair formula V with AMD black Edition Core. FPS maintain in 60 - 90.... :p

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that not high end build yet. for pure performance use windows 64bit ultimate version. hardware cant full perform with home basic. gtx 670 what model? im only use gtx 260 old model can perform maximum graphic without lagging. amd core is better to accelerate and maintain FPS. but importance is your GC spec. if only 1-2gb ddr5 128 bit still can get full perform. try to get above 256bit for your gc. my gc just need a bit tweak OC with crosshair formula V with AMD black Edition Core. FPS maintain in 60 - 90.... :p

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Microsoft Ultimate has more performance than Home Edition.....? What are you smoking man. And you using Ultimate is probably a pirated version, cos nobody is ever going to pay for anything than a Home Premium for day to day use.

AMD Athlon IIx4 641 Quad Core 3.50ghz
16GBs RAM
ATI Radeon HD5670
Win7 Ultimate 64bit

Mine working fine, can use the high setting without problem too :)