Keep Us Informed

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Threatening of leaving got old FAST GTFO my game hundreds of new players will have your spot

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I'm pretty sure you way misinterpreted what I meant - and where extremely rude in the processes.

I said people who already are in game will of course come back we get a free trial of ARR. But people WE show the game to that DONT have an account have no reason to come (for the first time) if they start another MMO while waiting for SE. (lots of buddy passes could help prevent a part of this) But also keeping a good hype machine is another good idea.. lol

I'd get off your flame button - it does no one any good.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I'm pretty sure you way misinterpreted what I meant - and where extremely rude in the processes.

I said people who already are in game will of course come back we get a free trial of ARR. But people WE show the game to that DONT have an account have no reason to come (for the first time) if they start another MMO while waiting for SE. (lots of buddy passes could help prevent a part of this) But also keeping a good hype machine is another good idea.. lol

I'd get off your flame button - it does no one any good.

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*Warlozard uses Flamethrower*

Warlock misinterpreting something?

Shocking.

I have a pretty unpopular opinion... but:

I think it's totally okay if SE goes quiet for a while.
I feel like they did a lot of great work when they weren't directly involved in player opinions and requests. I hope SE worries less about us, who have already fallen for XIV.. and focus more on the new life and blood of 2.0

I know a great many FF fans who didn't know XI even launched/existed.. and the same thing happened with XIV (for better or worse). I know a lot of people who would've played XI had they learned of it sooner.. but eventually decided against it because they felt they would be joining in "too late" and didn't want to "catch up" (and I'm talking.. '07-'09)

Hell, even I didn't know FFXIV launched when it did and I'd been excited about the idea since this video (in apparently '05-'06!?): http://youtu.be/sgtZvn5c4e4
I hope they market hard and strong, and try to get attention of communities outside of the lodestone with all of their features and updates.

Thankfully with social media today it'll be easier for me to spread the word and excitement (got my '06-'07 CoP static excited about ARR, and various other people) but we can only do so much as players. I really hope we're not the main demographic they want to appeal to. :)

I don't mind if SE goes quiet for a while either, though they could actually keep us apprised as of what's happening.

One post a week on a set day that they don't deviate from.

It would give people looking forward to XIV something to look forward to every week.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

I don't mind if SE goes quiet for a while either, though they could actually keep us apprised as of what's happening.

One post a week on a set day that they don't deviate from.

It would give people looking forward to XIV something to look forward to every week.

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That just hard to do when it come a mmo they been giving us info every week just not the type people want.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

Yet I purchased FF(VI)III with no information at all and it wound up being the best buy I ever made. Funny that.

Your argument is a red herring. The information you receive or do not receive on a game before release is irrelevant to the game's actual quality, unless the company actually LISTENS to feedback. And only THEN if the feedback is good (And it most often isn't.)

The problem is, by the time they usually have the game in a state to display, it is usually too late to change complaints people will have with fundamental mechanics.



To the determent of both the games and the community.

Face it. Risks were easier to take back in those days. We diddn't end up with "Generic-Army-Shooter 20, Wisps of minor improvement 3, DLC pack part 2 of 5!" Then either.

Games were pictured as a complete package, difficulties of budget and technology were overcome through creating interesting mechanics and allowed the player's imagination to fill in the gaps.

These days if the information isn't provided for you, that minor plothole, or breach in realisim is "OMG I LOST MY IMMERSION!!!!! YOUSUCKWHYDIDYOUDOTHISYOUHADONEJOBALE:KNRA:LKRA!~"

I do not envy game developers these days.

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In most cases you would be correct. But the again most casrs do not have the history of FFXIV. Remember, this game was a complete failure upon release. In normal cases SE would have written it off and tried again. Instead they decided to salvage the game and in turn their reputation. They took it upon themselves to open up a dialog with their subscribers for which I applaud them. In my opinion once they started down that road with FFXIV they cannot turn back. What I was trying to do with me recommendation was to provide them with an organized approach to the dissemination of that information. I am not asking for a step by step blueprint for each phase of the game. All we need is a general outline of their approach, especially in the areas that caused this game to fail in the first place. I am not looking for the "Flood of Information" that was promised but those of us who have steadfastly supported this game and in turn Yoshi-P and his team deserve something.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

SE is changing one step at a time we wont even be talking right now if this was 2years ago SE lol so clam down and enjoy what they give us and wait for more information if that all you want.

Remember SE selling point would always be JP so get over it they never going to waste a big amount of money like they do in JP. JP had awesome tv ad for FFXIV lol maybe we get one here and people wont care why? becuase no one really see TV anymore but i hope they spam the shit out of it on Youtube that would get more western players.

Also i did not read half your post because i'm not going to read a wall of text you could have really said all that in a very short comment keep it simple please. Sure when people cool off we hit other dry spell who cares ffxiv no where near release so information not going to come out that fast when we closer to release i bet they do much better at release.

yoshi-p know what he doing so don't worry and remember NA is not the main selling point for FFXIV sure yoshi-p keep saying he want to get more players but sadly wow players jump to ffxiv 2.0 and leave in a few month so people who never played a final fantasy mmo is the sell point or someone who never play a mmo to start with.

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This argument would be valid if the game was only striving to be a regional game, it is not. SE is attempting to develop a global product so therefore there approach should be global. What they can get away with in Japan after the launch failure will not work in EU and NA. Most people here need to be assured that their patience will be rewarded. Information goes a long way to fulfilling that reward.

Rizon, you keep talking about rewards - it may be just me, but haven't we been rewarded enough? Legacy, unique items, event items, progression (they didn't shut down servers). Why must we request more? Is there a limit to how much we define as our 'reward'? Not to mention information isn't something that really 'relates' to being a reward for us who stayed with game, because anyone can access it, not just people who've stuck with the game. Maybe it's high-time to drop this 'reward' approach because we've been compensated enough as it is.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

In most cases you would be correct. But the again most casrs do not have the history of FFXIV. Remember, this game was a complete failure upon release. In normal cases SE would have written it off and tried again. Instead they decided to salvage the game and in turn their reputation. They took it upon themselves to open up a dialog with their subscribers for which I applaud them. In my opinion once they started down that road with FFXIV they cannot turn back. What I was trying to do with me recommendation was to provide them with an organized approach to the dissemination of that information. I am not asking for a step by step blueprint for each phase of the game. All we need is a general outline of their approach, especially in the areas that caused this game to fail in the first place. I am not looking for the "Flood of Information" that was promised but those of us who have steadfastly supported this game and in turn Yoshi-P and his team deserve something.

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I'm not condoning complete silence from them. But here in this thread we have complaints about a perceived (not actual) laps in video releasing and the result is something that could be interpreted as a hissy fit.

Speaking of that disaster you're talking about when it came to FFXIV 1.0. They did a great job of turning that game around, from the fights to the cut-scenes. It truly began to feel like Final Fantasy, even before the End of the Era. In light of this, I'd actually go so far as to say they've earned a moment's reprise.

Let them chill out, relax, recharge their batteries and get ready to redouble their efforts on 2.0. We can hound them for more information (and believe me, I have my ways of asking them) once we're done stuffing ourselves full of turkey and the holidays get closer.