Creative Studio 3 is working on multiple projects at once.

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

To go even deeper, this isn't the case either. Back in 1.x when Yoshi took over he sent us 1.x players a survey on the race (STILL TYPING, ACCIDENTAL POST)

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Oh, wow! So it goes even earlier than ShB. I need to look more into Yoshi P's 1.x days. The more you know!

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Oh, wow! So it goes even earlier than ShB. I need to look more into Yoshi P's 1.x days. The more you know!

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Sorry I accidentally posted too early, here's the full history:

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

To go even deeper, this isn't the case either. Back in 1.x when Yoshi took over he sent us 1.x players a survey on the races WE wanted prioritized by the dev team. Of course the first set was to complete the missing genders which he commented on being a priority for him as well. The second highest voted race was Lupine, which he commented he knew he skewed b/c he put the example of Fran - we have been asking for Vieras for over 10yrs. He's known we've wanted Viera since 1.x in the style of Fran.

ANYONE arguing that this is too much for the dev team or we're asking too much has NO idea about the history of this game or the goals YOSHI HIMSELF SET FOR HIS TEAM AND EXPECTATIONS HE SET FOR US THE PLAYERS. The other top contenders were a beastial race and third was mixed races (half elezen half hyur etc). The results of added races is completely exemplified in the first races they added; Au'ra (this was supposed to be the beast race, but the dev team admitted in a fanfest I believe that the design got neutered and it didn't meet their expectation of 'beast' race - thus Hrothgar later) and Hilda's appearance (half elezen race).

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

Sorry I accidentally posted too early, here's the full history:

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No problem. I appreciate it!

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

What was the point of pushing the developers to add a race to the game that has unique head features if all you wanted to do was turn around and hide those features under headgear?

Have a little pride in the choice you made and show those features off instead.

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Wtf Is this Clark Kent scenerio garbage.
Putting on a Red Mages hat isn't going to make the group wonder where did our Kimba the Lion on Steriods dissappear to. In fact, there are already full head helmets that warp, if not outright cut, my head so it doesn't even resemble a beast. But Boy, I sure should be proud that the devs screwed my race so hard, it took them 3 YEARS to give me a basic cosmetic customization feature that every other race already had. Totally wasn't because they cut so many corners, it could be a circle.

Explains why they can't balance the game to where healers can have fun. (and I mean people who play healer to heal.)

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Originally Posted by LittleArrow

ANYONE arguing that this is too much for the dev team or we're asking too much has NO idea about the history of this game or the goals YOSHI HIMSELF SET FOR HIS TEAM AND EXPECTATIONS HE SET FOR US THE PLAYERS.

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This. Yoshi-P and his team spent so many years building amazing player relations and goodwill, but the past 3 expansions have cut corners left and right.

I love ShB, but let's be honest here - the fantastic MSQ masked A LOT of it's shortcomings.
Unlike SB just before it, ShB did not have:
1. A deep dungeon
2. A limited job
3. Heroic modes of old dungeons
4. Job quests
5. Hildibrand
6. Old trial gear for the new jobs
7. Old gear working on the new races
8. Probably more I'm forgetting!?

It's only true excuse was one less Ultimate due to COVID - everything else is usually there on release - but in ShB it wasn't.

And in EW it was even LESS with the entire trial quest series omitted and merged into the MSQ, the field zone missing and the relic being a vendor weapon.

I wonder what changed in development during this time and especially during EW's patches, hmm..

Especially as there are SO many hats that literally only need to be moved or shrunk down... like i get they are busy but after all this time, just let some devs take one hat every other day of week and wed be done by now.

Literally check the top 50 used head gear and work up that list. And dont release new gear viera cant wear...

Lack of integrity is what this all boils down to. The "we arent owed anything" mentality sinks very fast when there is a monthly fee and a bunch of unfinished features. Is this a kickstarter or an actual MMO?

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Lack of integrity is what this all boils down to. The "we arent owed anything" mentality sinks very fast when there is a monthly fee and a bunch of unfinished features. Is this a kickstarter or an actual MMO?

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Me personally? I could care less about hats. 100% of the time, prior to changing to Viera. I hid the hat.

My opinion: They're ugly, too big, look dumb or don't fit the look I'm going for. Therefore. Nobody should wear hats.

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Originally Posted by Winterfang

Wtf Is this Clark Kent scenerio garbage.
Putting on a Red Mages hat isn't going to make the group wonder where did our Kimba the Lion on Steriods dissappear to. In fact, there are already full head helmets that warp, if not outright cut, my head so it doesn't even resemble a beast. But Boy, I sure should be proud that the devs screwed my race so hard, it took them 3 YEARS to give me a basic cosmetic customization feature that every other race already had. Totally wasn't because they cut so many corners, it could be a circle.

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Yeah, also it deprives viera and hrothgar players of iconic job-related head gear, precisely like a red mage or black mage hat (or really any other artefact head gear). What if you want to live your job fantasy and proudly show off that you are a red mage (or any other job), or even better, that you are a viera/hrothgar who is also a red mage (etc.)?
For example, by adding head gear that also shows our ears (like they do for some elezen or miqo head gear).
But even if head gear were to "cut off" our ears you'd still recognise we are viera/hrothgar... So this idea that we are not "proud" of our races and want to "hide" our features is silly because those races are clearly not just their ears, esp. hrothgars. (As for vieras, even without ears they still have very distinct features and poses.)