Dawntrail's 8-man raid discussion

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

I feel like this raid tier is being overhyped. The combat is great but come on. This is no Eden raid or even Pandaemonium. At least not in terms of a complete package.

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I mean, in terms of normal raids, in my opinion it's on par with Eden's first tier and superior to Pandaemonium's first tier. I think Panda's first tier only had 1 fight I liked in it and well, I think we know how much the community absolutely loved P3. What makes or breaks it will be how the savage tiers stack up. Eden first savage tier will be tough to beat, but I don't think it's going to be all that hard to beat Panda's. Obviously this is all subjective, that's just how things are looking atm for me.

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Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei

The fact that the fights even got me to consider coming out of raid retirement for Savage is a huge compliment, since even Ultimate wasn't doing it.

Story is just Chapter 3 from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and I am absolutely here for it.

This was enjoyable overall. A direct hit. Honey B Lovely, I have high expectations for your fight.

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Final final boss of the raid series will be The Great Gonzales, please look forward to it.

all i did was chain die on picto.... I have no idea how i even died sometimes a couple of us just go instant splat. I am not at all interested in continuing it. The scenery is very nice and so is the boss design, but what is the purpose of it all? Who is the target audience of this I don't like wrestling etc. Its some weird anime thing they just tossed in its like they want the game to be something else entirely. Why are the rewards kinky bondage armor? None of these themes go together. Its like the marketing team gave them mandates and told them to throw all this stuff together.

Breath of fresh air after the msq!

Good fights. Good mechanics. Good bgm. Good story. No annoying character (so far)

I'm taking savage off this tier but damn these fights almost make me want to reconsider that decision. I've had so much fun with these fights (especially on pictomancer since it's still absolutely broken lol)! I'm very excited to see where the rest of this raid series will go because as of right now it's a huge step up from what pandy gave us.

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Originally Posted by Astronema

all i did was chain die on picto.... I have no idea how i even died sometimes a couple of us just go instant splat. I am not at all interested in continuing it. The scenery is very nice and so is the boss design, but what is the purpose of it all? Who is the target audience of this I don't like wrestling etc. Its some weird anime thing they just tossed in its like they want the game to be something else entirely. Why are the rewards kinky bondage armor? None of these themes go together. Its like the marketing team gave them mandates and told them to throw all this stuff together.

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It seems they're aiming for a wrestling theme, and besides, you can always opt for crafted gear or simply glam it up (my Vanguard gear glam will remain, no matter what). Trust me, I've seen much worse in my gaming days. I believe Savage will bee intense, especially the first, second, and fourth battles. Hone your slidecasting skills, because we're all going to need them.

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Originally Posted by IvoryHawk

and all fights are voiced, big win for me

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And every fight has a unique song! That's not been done before, if I'm not mistaken

What I thought about it was I felt like I joined the WWE and was waiting for someone to come out with a chair for a weapon.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

And every fight has a unique song! That's not been done before, if I'm not mistaken

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Even if the third fight wasnt my cup of tea in OST, I very much enjoyed that there were 4 songs. Im glad they took the extra mile to give more ambience to each fight

I'm definitely looking forward to savage. This raid tier seems like a return to form in terms of fight design. It reminds me of Eden. Smaller hitboxes and uptime isn't completely free. Seems like there will be a lot more room for optimisation and skill expression. Ew's savage tiers felt a lot like hitting a training dummy for 10 minutes once you'd cleared a few times.