Dawntrail's 8-man raid discussion

[LittleArrow]

I wanted to come here and discuss my experience with the 8man raid. There are lots of spoilers for everything so please don't read this if you want the fun of surprise.


SPOILERS INCOMING


First and foremost, I want to give a brief description of my experience with the expansion so far; I hated the MSQ. The ideas were great, the beats were fun, but the execution was horrendous to me. I've been playing this game since 1.x beta, and I've never seen such sloppy awful writing from this team. It really put such a sour note in the entire expansion.

All the fun dungeons, trials, everything - I was just a grump. Whether it was fun or not, that MSQ really ruined the mood for me.

Until this raid...

I can say without a shadow of a doubt, this is some of the most fun I've had in any raid setting in this entire game from 1.x through to now! THE RAID IS SO INCREDIBLY FUN!!!

The writing is clunky, but works! I'm so invested in the story and I want to unravel this incredible mystery!! The character designs are just stunning! In and out of their transformed selves - oh my goodness!! They look so interesting and new!!

The mechanics had me smiling ear to ear! I kept saying to myself - "You tricked me! What do you mean it's not just a pattern to be followed, but I actually have to engage with the mechanics and figure out what to do on the fly!!" The stages were so dynamic and the use of space couldn't have be more exciting!

The gear... well, I mean, it's wrestler gear so you know.. a choice lol.

Overall, this raid alone has made this expansion for me. I enjoy so much about this expansion; zones, gear, music, everything except the MSQ; and low and behold this raid came in like a whirlwind and just kicked my socks off! Literally, the last fight is my favorite fight in the entire game. I can't wait to see what they do in the future!

If you haven't done it, or normally don't do the normal 8man - please do it! I can't wait to see everyone's feedback with this great new raid!

[Ayalu]

Raid Gear is underwhelming tbh but Raid itself certainly was fun

[SillyCrow]

The queen bee can make bees... this raises... questions.

[weebtext]

I wanna be Honey B.'s little worker bee!

[Ayalu]

I wanna be Honey B.'s little worker bee!

....i strangely had a similar thought, they look adorable.

[Altera]

Honey B mechanics is like the first boss in the Deadwalk dungeon with all those bloody adds constantly moving around the arena, and Bee has lots of AOEs dropping nonstop aswell making a hard life of a BLM even that much more punishing and miserable with the current Dawntrail BLM changes they did. BLM is I fear going to be excluded fully from Savage as PCT is just way too good and easy to play that a party will suffer the negative risks of bringing a BLM instead.

Devs have really messed up BLM this time around and thats incredible considering every expansion since 1.0, BLM has steadily gotten better and better. DT changes ruined a lot of that progress as even the new big LVL100 spell Flarestar will not be used much as its so tight in AF phase its easy to lose out on :/

7.05 better bring a lot of spell changes rather than just focusing on potency tweaks or else BLM is not gonna see a lot of Savage clears :/

[angelar_]

my experience is "no I'm not signing up for corny wrestling content in my raid roulette for the rest of this game's lifespan and will be back in 2 years once this tire fire is over."

[Mecia]

Second and third fights are pretty rough on BLM but they were all pretty fun and felt fresh mechanically. Dont care for the gear, music or aesthetics though.

[DynnDiablos]

My goal is to do what I always do. Clear all four once and never touch them again.

[RainDurell]

Honey B mechanics is like the first boss in the Deadwalk dungeon with all those bloody adds constantly moving around the arena, and Bee has lots of AOEs dropping nonstop aswell making a hard life of a BLM even that much more punishing and miserable with the current Dawntrail BLM changes they did. BLM is I fear going to be excluded fully from Savage as PCT is just way too good and easy to play that a party will suffer the negative risks of bringing a BLM instead.

Devs have really messed up BLM this time around and thats incredible considering every expansion since 1.0, BLM has steadily gotten better and better. DT changes ruined a lot of that progress as even the new big LVL100 spell Flarestar will not be used much as its so tight in AF phase its easy to lose out on :/

7.05 better bring a lot of spell changes rather than just focusing on potency tweaks or else BLM is not gonna see a lot of Savage clears :/

Putting aside how powerful PCT is compared to BLM, if you're having mobility issues with BLM on the Honey B fight, all I gotta say is... git gud? Skilled BLM players should know how to maneuver through pretty much any mechanic with little downtime. You have instacasts, triplecasts, and knowing when you can squeeze in a hardcast. I actually love that I get to have more skill expression on BLM, getting to pull off the "bullet hell" mechanic with full uptime is super satisfying.

Again, there is obviously an issue in terms of how BLM is underperforming in DPS compared to PCT, but the fight design isn't gonna be a problem for BLMs who know what they're doing.