Dawntrail's mediatour dungeon was already cleared without healers.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

once they add some "tight" heal checks that require a minimum of skill, 80% of all so called "casuals" will fail it and start complaining in the forums about the difficulty. See pharos sirius
thats why we cant have nice things and everything involving "casuals" is dirt easy

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While i want a harder game on the base level, yes...

Just remember Nidhog, Shinryu, Tsukoyomi... ive had friends almost quit on them as they literally could not clear em for weeks lol

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I actually don't think they were referring to the healer (well, at least from a healing perspective), beside that they'll have to carry out all these mechanics too.

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Mechanicstrail.
Encountertrail?
DDRtrail?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

once they add some "tight" heal checks that require a minimum of skill, 80% of all so called "casuals" will fail it and start complaining in the forums about the difficulty. See pharos sirius
thats why we cant have nice things and everything involving "casuals" is dirt easy

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Unfortunately this makes all casual content "Youtube on second monitor" level of difficulty for the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

once they add some "tight" heal checks that require a minimum of skill, 80% of all so called "casuals" will fail it and start complaining in the forums about the difficulty. See pharos sirius
thats why we cant have nice things and everything involving "casuals" is dirt easy

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With the amount of healing and mitigation on tanks and DDs: Yes we can have that now.

When the healer can't handle it then the other roles should step up their game.

They should not be able to clear without any healer, but combined healing of tanks, DDs and a subpar healer? Why not.

At this point wtf are the point of content for man if it erects a entire class irrelevant

lol, most of the casual dps player wont do anything to help for stuff like this. many of them play dps because there is no responsibility. some even say it would be okay to only use a skill every 10 seconds becsuse little dmg is still dmg

i would love it though.

I personally think that dps-ing as a heal in dungeons is a very satisfying thing to do. Just spam aoes and out-dps some of your actual damage dealers
Also, the worse a group is, the more a heal is needed. If you take a tank and 2 dps, that only use half of their tool kits (which way too many people do), they will still need a heal :shrug:

out-dpsing a dps isnt satisfying. its sad

That's what wiping/fail state for.

Out DPSing a DPS would be somewhat exciting if my rotation wasn’t literally just overpowered AOW spam

It also honestly reflects more poorly on the DPS than it reflects well on me anyway