Concerning the 2 new Jobs

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If the new jobs start at low levels, existing players will be annoyed at having to grind them all the way up before they can continue the story. We've already seen that back in Heavensward.

There's really no perfect solution here, unfortunately. One way or the other, somebody's gonna be mad about it.

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Its hardly a grind when doing a leveling rou with like 12hrs rested exp and food. You get nearly 3 levels worth of exp with that and in conjunction with deep dungeons and bozja it's pretty easy to get to 90 in just a few days if you dedicate said days to it and maybe also utilize your wonderous tails.
That said I don't see Square making you start at a level lower than 80 now that sage/reaper exist.

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Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

Just call the job Ranger please Squeenix.

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...Please no.

"Ranger" originally referred to a person entrusted with the care of a range of (typically private) land, usually to ensure that there is enough to hunt, raise, or fish on said land, often through wildlife management (including through hunting overpopulating or adversely invasive elements) and preventing poaching by peasants through preemptive or retributive threat if that land was privately owned (which it almost always was; a feudal lord being the government doesn't make the land they own public). And even now, it still refers to land management, known far more for its trekking and ecological observation and road maintenance, etc., than for anything to do with combat.

Now take a look at Viper's gear. Does their armor look the attire of someone who'd be travelling constantly through the countryside, sleeping outdoors at least as often as not? Look at their weapons? Is that what you'd expect for a hybrid between an ecologist and hunter of prey animals and the occasional trapper of wolves or wild dogs?

Even in DnD, a Rangers' unique functionality has little to nothing to do with melee combat. If you want a dual-wielding swordsman, both Fighters and Rogues do that better. Drizzt is as famous as he is largely because he is an amalgamation of outliers, a righteous, kind, surface-dwelling member of an under-dwelling mercenary, and typically outright cruel people who becomes a Ranger later in life (after already having picked up dual-wielding as a Fighter) who sticks to melee weapons. His being a Ranger has everything to do with him being an outworlder, a naturalist, not... dual-swords.

What part of Viper's garb makes them appear someone comfortable out in nature (while still pragmatic and/or short of glorifying said nature, per a Druid)?


Viper's aesthetic is that of an urban rogue with perhaps the occasional side of dungeoneering or piracy. It looks nothing like a Ranger.