Quest Chaining!? <NO THANKS>

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Because Quest Progressing in most MMOs are horrendously done. Period lol. People were lapping up SWTOR's quest progression like a 20$ hooker, however they then realized how lazy they got with it after the initial quest lines. The main problem with it is not because it hands you xp...it's because in pretty much every MMO that utilize it, it's essentially what we have now in terms of Guildleves.

The story is mediocre or non-existent or poorly presented that you're better off just skipping it and only in it for the exp. (Means to an end.)

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The story in SWTOR was shit because it was done by Bioware, not because of quest chaining.

Quest chaining can actually be done to where you can have an ongoing story, similar to how missions in XI worked.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

The story in SWTOR was shit because it was done by Bioware, not because of quest chaining.

Quest chaining can actually be done to where you can have an ongoing story, similar to how missions in XI worked.

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That's not quest chaining though. FFXI had none of that.

This is quest chaining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sye_hFl5IkI

Yeah, XI's Mission (and XIV's main Scenario/GC Umbral Era stuff) is just mission progression for the main storyline, which is done with a lot more care than you see in other MMOs in regards to quest chaining. Quest Chaining is just a series of generic quests that pushes you from one location to the next, rarely presented in a quality manner.

That's my only real gripe with it, it's never presented well and it's hard to believe SE will present it well too, since their whole focal point is making this a 'standard mmo'.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Do you want quest chaining? its a terrible system.

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Quest Chaining is a Terrible system. After the first or second zone, people dont even read them any more. Its just grinding Mobs by yourself.

They've been giving options for a while now. I don't see how this'll be a problem if it's completely optional, which Yoshida has stated that it was.

We're still getting exp camps
and we're still getting leves.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

In about 3 days the whole front board will say Rokien! :p

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You know it wouldn't be so bad if people stoped being idiots and reply just to whine about him posting. If anything he has a good formula for keeping his threads on the front page. People hating him does wonders for his threads.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

They've been giving options for a while now. I don't see how this'll be a problem if it's completely optional, which Yoshida has stated that it was.

We're still getting exp camps
and we're still getting leves.

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Which leves are those stupid quests that nobody cares about, why add normal quests like those?

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Originally Posted by Jynx

You know it wouldn't be so bad if people stoped being idiots and reply just to whine about him posting. If anything he has a good formula for keeping his threads on the front page. People hating him does wonders for his threads.

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I think I've only had a few threads that didn't make the front page lol

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

The story in SWTOR was shit because it was done by Bioware, not because of quest chaining.

Quest chaining can actually be done to where you can have an ongoing story, similar to how missions in XI worked.

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There has never been an MMO with a good Quest based leveling system. Its pretty obvious why. People do not want to read while they level.

Quest XP should only serve to supplement leveling. Quests should Focus on storyline and unlocking features. The second you start making leveling dependant on quests, you start flooding the game with:

"Blah blah blah blah blah Dodos. Please go thin out their numbers." Kill Dodos 0/10

Then you get a friggin hundred of those, you stop reading them, you stop reading everything else, and you grind away on crappy please kill 10 quests instead of Killing things with a group of friends.

I would assumed that those in favor of a longer leveling experience would be in favor of SE putting their twist on quest-based leveling.

It'd be easier to get people on board for leveling slower if the "journey" of leveling was, you know, an actual journey and not a slaughterfest of the same mobs over and over till you're high enough to move on to the next mob.

Especially if those quests were reminiscent of old-school FF stories. People don't dump 90+ hours into the old games because they were just killing the same mobs over and over. There may have been some of that to raise Gil. But most of the time it was off adventuring and getting lost in the world on the way to the next quest point.

I'm all for leveling through content. Camp grinding is dull.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

There has never been an MMO with a good Quest based leveling system. Its pretty obvious why. People do not want to read while they level.

Quest XP should only serve to supplement leveling. Quests should Focus on storyline and unlocking features. The second you start making leveling dependant on quests, you start flooding the game with:

"Blah blah blah blah blah Dodos. Please go thin out their numbers." Kill Dodos 0/10

Then you get a friggin hundred of those, you stop reading them, you stop reading everything else, and you grind away on crappy please kill 10 quests instead of Killing things with a group of friends.

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MMOs are just progressive in that way though.

You first mission in Eorzea is blah blah blah kill three marmots.

Your last mission is blah blah blah collect nine Hamlet seals, 25k GC seals, 999 beastman coins, doublemeld a weapon, spiritbond at a slower rate and kill a hard boss.

MMOs are one long fetch quest, any way you slice it. It's just that each quest ask for a little more of our time than the last but promises more in return.