What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

Except every time people do complain respectfuly and with patience, people come along, scream at us that the game is fine when it isn't and gaslight people into excusing worse and worse content. Even if we do act politely about it, which many people did for years, people would just call others whiners and tell them that the game is fine.

I can't believe I have to bring this back up, but...

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Even if the game is fine for you it doesn't mean everyone is happy with it. Nor does it mean those who aren't happy with it should shut up and eat it.

Otherwise we'd never move on from 1.0.

Otherwise many other games would still be crap.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

Some JP site commentary I've seen has been very blunt, but I'm guessing they're the less "polite" ones which the devs avoid.

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that's what I've heard and read roundabout from others that are more fluent & not reliant on google translate lol (not throwing shade, I promise)- that the more "blunt" posters get trolled (much like here, but the trolls don't discriminate) or they get ignored/ thread becomes inactive. Until semi-recently.
or the Threads aren't super active until something arises- so like anywhere I guess when you look at it broadly.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

While there are problems to be as hyperbolic as some here are being is a bit disingenuous don't you think? Most of the issues brought up have been addressed or are being reviewed, that would never happen in say WoW. I will be happy as long as I know it is being addressed or reviewed. I will admit there are problems of course but they fact they have been pretty open about it and willing to try to make amends/adjustments where possible tells me this ain't close to begin nearly as bad as WoW, no dev has gone "We don't want you playing *insert class here*" yet.

Nothing will ever come close to as tone-deaf as WoW was during BfA and Shadowlands by a mile given the issues that took months for them to address were brought up in beta and promptly ignored.

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Who cares about wow? Is this a wow forum?

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Who cares about wow? Is this a wow forum?

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Only when we can divert attention from the faults of FF14

Oh I fully agree there are issues and they should be addressed fully preferably in the next live letter or an open Q&A. I just think there is a slight over-reaction here.

too busy making FF16

spoiler: is going to flop like FF15

Please look at the earlier posts doom and glooming about how this is turning into WoW, they are there I assure you.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

Nothing will ever come close to as tone-deaf as WoW was during BfA and Shadowlands by a mile given the issues that took months for them to address were brought up in beta and promptly ignored.

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It's literally taken them years to fix Living Dead, so please spare me the white-knightery.

And we don't get access to a beta or a PTR where a lot of these issues could be caught and rectified instead of having to point them out on patch day.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Except every time people do complain respectfuly and with patience, people come along, scream at us that the game is fine when it isn't and gaslight people into excusing worse and worse content. Even if we do act politely about it, which many people did for years, people would just call others whiners and tell them that the game is fine.

I can't believe I have to bring this back up, but...

Even if the game is fine for you it doesn't mean everyone is happy with it. Nor does it mean those who aren't happy with it should shut up and eat it.

Otherwise we'd never move on from 1.0.

Otherwise many other games would still be crap.

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It's okay to criticize a game- more so if our money is involved.
It's why I have a megathread for hairstyles & beards, bc I know trying to approach a broader amount would attain nothing as my past threads have shown. I personally, do not think we should have to or want to rely on character mods to satisfy our want for better character features/ designs.

I want to see more masculine styles, new faces that have beards etc
For female characters, I want more make-up options & braids, curly hair, more dreads etc
I want to see the devs put more time into adding more cosmetic features in XIV when it comes to the character creating process- just need folks to be constructively posting and consistent while banding together so it sees more light.

My two biggest complaints for XIV is the housing & the character creator. That's just me.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

While there are problems to be as hyperbolic as some here are being is a bit disingenuous don't you think? Most of the issues brought up have been addressed or are being reviewed, that would never happen in say WoW. I will be happy as long as I know it is being addressed or reviewed. I will admit there are problems of course but they fact they have been pretty open about it and willing to try to make amends/adjustments where possible tells me this ain't close to begin nearly as bad as WoW, no dev has gone "We don't want you playing *insert class here*" yet.

Nothing will ever come close to as tone-deaf as WoW was during BfA and Shadowlands by a mile given the issues that took months for them to address were brought up in beta and promptly ignored.

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When you compare shit against shit, you can only wonder which is less shitty.