Final Fantasy 14 Players trying WOW?

Bottom line, Modern WoW is cool for a short span of time then gets really old, really quick. It's easy to see "Oh well that's 17 years worth of content to enjoy!" Next to none of it is relevant. Literally. If it isn't your faction capital, or 9.0 zones, or the 9.1 and soon 9.2 zone it literally is pointless to be there. World of Warcraft became World of Latest Content Patch very quickly. Then once Shadowlands ends, all the zones in it will cease being relevant and be avoided permanently unless it's some meta leveling strategy to save an hour.

Oh and before I go, classes. This is a fun one. If you're not playing a class or specialization of a class that is in the upper end of performance, good luck seeing parties that aren't matchmade. XIV gives you the liberty to play what you want and be viable to all content, some are better but you can still do it. Not so for WoW. Lord help you also if you accidentally botch a mechanic. You'll see verbal abuse like none other. Liked playing your rogue for years and it's bad one tier? Better reroll. Now what's rerolling like in WoW? In XIV you pop on a new weapon, buy some gear, meld some stuff if you have it leveled. In WoW? ENTIRELY NEW CHARACTER. All those grinds you did to keep your renown in tip top shape? Yeah, you'll do those again on a new character because it's better for a tier and your guild will require it if you want that raid spot.

Actually one final note. The 9.2 zone. You need to do daily quests there and grinds for a currency. You then need to buy upgrades. Some upgrades research in a day, some take a week. Flying in that zone right now with the PTR is locked behind about a month of a grind assuming you have the currency and keep chaining the upgrades the second research on one finishes. Part of these upgrades? Understanding the language of the NPCs in that zone. Yeah, they timegated dialogue.

You'll spend over a month doing daily quests in a new zone that will get old very quick, all so the second the next expansion comes out it's literally useless. At least Eureka and Bozja have some level of use, or replayability to them. Not this. We did the same thing in Nazjatar back when Shadowbringers released (they dropped the same day) in 8.2 (development cycle coming into perspective yet? Btw, BFA ended with 8.3 then was a what, 8 months wait until we could prepare for Shadowlands and play prepatch?) in that time XIV went through ALL of Shadowbringers and dropped Endwalker. WoW managed two content patches and an expansion that brought very little to the game in the time Square managed five major content patches and an expansion launch.

Other significant gripes: Beta testing. They invite some to try out the beta at random for the new expansion. We always notice flaws in the systems (oh yeah, they LOVE borrowed power systems now that are quintessential in current expansion, useless in next, full of bad features people will hate. In Shadowlands it was picking one of four covenants that all gave you spells. They were told in beta they needed to allow free swapping. They ignored it. Then it had to be a selling point feature of 9.1.5) and point them out on the forums. Blizzard ignores it willingly and ships it in a bad state. Then spends half the expansion fixing things people told them from beta were bad ideas and giving them the exact solutions they inevitably implement. Though they'll spend a good year defending the system saying it's actually really good if you just give it a chance.

Really does feel like the developers do not play their own game with regards to WoW. We did the same thing in Legion when we told them "Hey these legendary items are way too powerful to not be targeted." Blizzard relented at the literal final patch of Legion and added a way for us to pick the legendary we wanted if we didn't get it already. Oh yeah, you didn't work toward them. They were random drops and if you got one, you had about a 50/50 chance it was a trash one with some of them being mandatory for classes to feel right. Then in the next expansion they have a successor to that system called Azerite Armor. It gave passives. We told them in beta "Hey, you need a way for people to pick pieces they actually need instead of being pure luck." They deleted the BFA beta forum due to the criticisms being too many then dragged their feet until 8.1 to add a way for us to target pieces in.

WoW was good a long time ago. BC, Wrath - after that it started dipping for me personally tbh. Sure, there's a lot of things I miss from WoW. The raids were interesting or the open world.. Heck, I miss the open world the most. I could go anywhere. I could DIE anywhere. Jumping off a cliff just a tad to high for your hp pool? Well, too bad. Go run across half the map to get to your body again.
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Yeah, thinking about it, I mostly miss the World with no boundaries. The actual challenge of not gettin to much mobs at your ar*e, cuz you actually would die - out in the open. Don't de-mount while flying, cuz you won't survive. Also see that big sky above? Not just decoration till 5 feet from the ground. FFXIV is really limited on this specific area and I wish they would not.
And while I really miss these parts, WoW just isn't fun anymore. It really turned into a second job, as someone mentioned.

I'd try wOw if it ever came to consoles, looks like a fun game.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Don't believe the hype that "Classic" WoW is better. I played it when it was current in-game, and it became a slog running alt-class-character #10 through the content.

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10 alts... in Vanilla???

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Or wait until you finish grinding [current expansion McGuffin] for gear upgrades .. it makes materia in FFXIV look like mana flowing from the heavens. I don't miss that.

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Same, but only due to the alt-unfriendliness of it. It was kind of like being expected to grind a relic for each and every job one played. The content involved was mostly interesting than our relic grinds loops, but it still had far too much dry material not to bring in QoL changes / account-wide progress from the start, rather than only towards the end of each expansion they'd gatekeep.

Barring the above alt-unfriendliness (always resolved later in the expansion), the customization and quirky fun of borrowed powers (Artifact Weapons, Essences) have been hits more often than misses for me.

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If you think the Relic Weapon grind is bad in FFXIV, wait until you try to get the appropriate reputations in WoW in order to fly in expansion zones.

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Do the leveling in those zones, get your bonus loot for a couple weeks via Emissary quests (7-25 minutes to complete the whole set), then spend a few hours when the rep bonuses are up and you're already done. I can only wish the Relic Weapon grinds were so quick and painless, rather than being gated behind a system inside a system inside an unlocked zone and at least a dozen of hours more mob and FATE grinding.

I have been playing FFXI forever ...WOW (mainly at new expansion releases) , Tera + FFXIV of course.
Rift (was only for superior housing)

All have their good and bad points . ALL of them.

I enjoy each one for different reasons. I wont pit one against the other.

All 5 games could still learn a lot from each other , they each excel at different features

Yes try WOW! :)

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Originally Posted by MistyMew

I have been playing FFXI forever ...WOW (mainly at new expansion releases) , Tera + FFXIV of course.
Rift (was only for superior housing)

All have their good and bad points . ALL of them.

I enjoy each one for different reasons. I wont pit one against the other.

All 5 games could still learn a lot from each other , they each excel at different features

Yes try WOW! :)

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Listen to this player. Good advice.

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Originally Posted by JennytheJester

Really does feel like the developers do not play their own game

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Tbf 14 feels this exact same way if you play a healer lol.

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Originally Posted by Skyclaw726

I hope you don't own a smartphone, Nike clothing, Addidas clothing, pretty much any Apple product or any fancy technology for that matter if this is your philosophy in life.

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Exactly. And Hershey's chocolate is made by child slaves, etc...we could go on all day. I mean all you have to do is basically exist in modern society and you are supporting some type of exploitation even if you don't realize it. It's a shame but unfortunately that's how it is.

If you're interest is purely in a story perspective I can safely tell you it isn't worth it. A fair amount of the story isn't even the game and exists outside it in the form of comics and novels... which there are 22 in the WoW part of it, but an extra 7 if you want the stuff that came before WoW, so 29 in total. And some of those; I believe.. I could be wrong, are no longer canon so good luck on that front.

Then their Chronicle set of books which was supposed to canonize everything was changed up and said to be written by a race in the game and could be inaccurate... yeah.

If you're looking for gameplay, music, another world to explore, if the art style piques your interest. Then certainly give it a try.

But I can't stress this enough, if you're looking for story look not to WoW for it. Unless you enjoy your adventures with cork board and string like a conspirator nut case (no offense intended to those people).