Racial distribution, July 2021 (Luckybancho)

Always disliked the idea of Hrothgar. FFXIV didn't need another cat race even if the demand for a bestial race was there. The opportunity presented itself in 3.0 with Aura & even the concept art proved to be popular, instead comically mascot faces, bad hunched over idle stance, poor head/hair implementation, ect...

Overall, just bad. Limited job & now limited race...

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

My argument was moreso for them to use the highlander mode and then upscale it to fit the X ronso’s. It would at least look a hell of a lot better than the weird body proportional hunchback current hrothgars have.

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I don't think they should've used the Highlander model. Kimahri was the outlier of most Ronso being smaller than the others and I think that's who most people point to when comparing them to the Hrothgar, but the other Ronso are bigger than Kimahri. Plus the Hrothgar aren't even THAT big as people seem to keep implying, they're body builder sized:

https://i.imgur.com/sVtsgdh.png

The problem is that weird wide hunched over stance makes them appear much bigger than they actually are and the gear they use for Hrothgar is fit with Roegadyn in mind which also doesn't help.

Even if its smaller by comparison to the more popular options, 30K is not a small number to sneeze at.
So the Hrothgar weren't a waste of time.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

My argument was moreso for them to use the highlander mode and then upscale it to fit the X ronso’s. It would at least look a hell of a lot better than the weird body proportional hunchback current hrothgars have.

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Using Highlander wouldn't have made them non-hunchbacked, they'd just be skinnier and hunchbacked. It's not like that's a trait they inherited from the Roegadyn model.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I don't agree on Ronso being comparable to Highlander at all. They're significantly taller and thicker than any other humanoid character in X already. And I actually don't mind their physical build. Being beefy fits beastly races very well IMO. And in a game where nearly every animal-like monster with limbs is jacked as hell I actually think hrothgar still looked too "clean" in muscle detail.
But I'll always roll my eyes at whoever decided that they should be hunched all the time and have these very out of place human-shaped feet. Not to mention the character hair restrictions and how grotesque two of the faces are.

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I assume by "clean" you mean soft which if so I agree. The concept art showed them being ripped and toned like a highlander but instead they look soft to average toned.

I think I know what two grotesque faces you are referring to, face 3 & 4. I can't say much about face 4 as I find it to be... the least appealing but for face 3 I think it just depends on what options you choose. I like face 3 because it has a natural fierceness but can look soft and sweet eith emotes. I think one of face 3 biggest downside is the dark teeth.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

Always disliked the idea of Hrothgar. FFXIV didn't need another cat race even if the demand for a bestial race was there. The opportunity presented itself in 3.0 with Aura & even the concept art proved to be popular, instead comically mascot faces, bad hunched over idle stance, poor head/hair implementation, ect...

Overall, just bad. Limited job & now limited race...

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The idea of Hrothgar was just fine. It was the dev team's handling of their development that was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Using Highlander wouldn't have made them non-hunchbacked, they'd just be skinnier and hunchbacked. It's not like that's a trait they inherited from the Roegadyn model.

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We don’t know that really. If they’d used highlander as a model it would’ve worked better then to have them non-hunchbacked as it’d be easier to fit glams for them. It’s just a woulda coulda shoulda scenario in the end. Using roes as the model was an objectively bad move though. Not just simply going for a X Ronso mirror was also a bad move.The 14 team just seems to have a bad track record with new races tbh. First Au ra with the amazing concept art vs what we got and then comes hrothgar which barely looks anything like their X counterparts and has a weird hunchback. Then we have female viera who look fine, probably because they just direct ported them from 12. But then now we have male viera, who like hrothgar, have major posture problems and really limited customiazation.

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Originally Posted by -JayJay-

I don't think they should've used the Highlander model. Kimahri was the outlier of most Ronso being smaller than the others and I think that's who most people point to when comparing them to the Hrothgar, but the other Ronso are bigger than Kimahri. Plus the Hrothgar aren't even THAT big as people seem to keep implying, they're body builder sized:

https://i.imgur.com/sVtsgdh.png

The problem is that weird wide hunched over stance makes them appear much bigger than they actually are and the gear they use for Hrothgar is fit with Roegadyn in mind which also doesn't help.

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They're enormous even by bodybuilder standards. You'd be looking at the very upper extremes to find someone that big.

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Originally Posted by Big_Bap

I'm not dying to know, I simply find it curious to see people so blatantly using those numbers without a second thought, when very little is known about the methodology. They certainly look better than the ones simbiat (or whatever his name is) releases, but he uses the xivapi and its reliability is abysmal.

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In all honesty I am curious now as well, because I hadn't given thought to the logistics involved in scraping the Lodestone to harvest data. I can understand why he doesn't specify this as a standard, because it probably goes beyond what most people are interested in or would understand about the topic, but at the same time he is Japanese so the answer may well already be there somewhere, in Japanese.

Fem elezen checking in.

Wish my feet didn't clip into my dresses.

Also my head size is just fine, thanks.

When they say "player" do they mean a single account or just one given character?.


Because we can have from 8 to 40 characters and each one of them can be actively playing and be above level 60, although having gained a new minion or mount or even HP since the previous census does make a cut, even if not very accurate.


I can imagine active alt characters not gaining neither HP, minions or mounts in two or three months.