Gil sinks

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Originally Posted by linayar

I feel the same way toward gil sink in general. I don't see why it's a problem that gil is worthless (or only worth as much as other players make it).

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"Gil being worthless" leads to less problems than "I dont have enough gil I'm gonna lose my house oh god no."
Keep that real world stress out of my fun fantasy romp please.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Money rarely falls randomly into the lap of those who sit around waiting for it to appear. It usually goes to those who work to earn it.

So do the game equivalent of what Jeff Bezos did in real life - spend hours working hard providing a service others will pay for. Many players would rather pay someone else to do the work to get the items they want than do the work themselves. I do that work and then sell them the items via the marketboard. I get richer while they get poorer because they didn't want to put in the effort but I did.

Crafting and gathering is not the only way. There are items that come from quest rewards, items you can buy with tomestones and GC seals, items you get from treasure maps and lockboxes, items you get from retainer ventures. There are roulette bonuses for being Adventurer in Need and bonuses from challenge log. HW/SB/ShB daily and weekly hunt bills reward gil in addition to seals that can be used to buy things you can either sell for gil or use in place of gil (hello Aetheryte tickets, goodbye teleport fees).

There's a tremendous number of gil making opportunities in the game if you're willing to put in the effort. If you aren't willing, then you're not going to get the gil.

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Lmao it was a joke

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Originally Posted by ItMe

"Gil being worthless" leads to less problems...

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It leads to no problem as far as I'm concerned.

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Keep that real world stress out of my fun fantasy romp please.

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Haha, agreed. But if they want a gil sink, then that's a gil sink. :cool:

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Originally Posted by linayar

Haha, agreed. But if they want a gil sink, then that's a gil sink. :cool:

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I just don't think the idea should be humored is all. Gil sinks? I can get behind that. But not like that. :p

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Originally Posted by linayar

I don't see the need for a gil sink, but if they want one, then it should be for housing.

That's too cheap.

25 million gil/month rent for a large house
10 million gil/month rent for a medium house
1.5 million gil/month rent for a small house

Double it for FC house.

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Housing doesn't work well as a gil sink when there are a limited number of houses available.

Your suggested rents are far too high. Most players wouldn't be able to afford that at all, pricing them out of the housing market and thus removing the effectiveness as a gil sink. And most FCs make far less gil than individual players do.

Good gil sinks soak up much of the excess gil getting into the system while leaving the player some gil to spend on other things they want to have. While I'm in favor of having a monthly fee for houses as a gil sink, your suggested amounts are nowhere close to reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Coletergeist

Lmao it was a joke

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Apologies! Jokes and sarcasm don't always come across in text when you don't know the person well.

*cough*

You know ..... If you all have too much gill , I could be your "gill-sink"
I am sure i could take all your gill you find too much of your hands for a small fee , of course.

And yes, I am joking.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I just don't think the idea should be humored is all. Gil sinks? I can get behind that. But not like that. :p

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:cool:

Anyways, wow, you responded fast...

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Housing doesn't work well as a gil sink when there are a limited number of houses available.

Your suggested rents are far too high. Most players wouldn't be able to afford that at all, pricing them out of the housing market and thus removing the effectiveness as a gil sink. And most FCs make far less gil than individual players do.

Good gil sinks soak up much of the excess gil getting into the system while leaving the player some gil to spend on other things they want to have. While I'm in favor of having a monthly fee for houses as a gil sink, your suggested amounts are nowhere close to reasonable.

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Fair enough, though I still think 3 million gil for someone who can afford a large house is too little. Even these upcoming mounts won't be just 1-2 million gil.

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Originally Posted by Nightroad

*cough*

You know ..... If you all have too much gill , I could be your "gill-sink"
I am sure i could take all your gill you find too much of your hands for a small fee , of course.

And yes, I am joking.

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Well, if you're joking, can I not? I promise I don't buy from other players (much) so giving gil to me would be an actual gil sink as my money mostly goes out of the economy.

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Originally Posted by linayar

The people who who have invested years into their houses are not in a disadvantageous position compared to those who haven't invested or don't even have a house. They're also the ones more likely to have the gil or be able to make gil if they can invest in their house.

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I dont have a house, I still think your prices are absurd.

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

I dont have a house, I still think your prices are absurd.

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Meh, I think all gil sink is absurd.

Add a new move to SAM called "Gil Toss" and have 1k, 10k and 100k versions with adjusted potencies