I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

The main reason as a tank (paladin) that I end up doing these large pulls and rushing is always less due to time (since if I plan on playing FFXIV I make sure to leave enough time to play) and more that once you hit a certain ilevel cap, slow pulling is just so boring. Numerous times where I was forced to slow pull cause the healer didn't want me to pull quick I didn't complain but I started to fall asleep at the keyboard cause I didn't really have to do much to keep aggro and not take a ton of damage.

Of course if we end up wiping cause the healer couldn't keep up with the amount of damage despite the cooldowns I use or they say they are new, than I don't mind as much going slower. It's just normal rushing cause than I actually have to pay more attention (and perhaps it is the same for many other tanks out there) to not end up dead.

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Originally Posted by Shalan

The fact that this mode of thinking is still used/justified by players is mind boggling. That line of thinking is a relic from when (re)establishing aggro was actually somewhat difficult. As easy as it is now, it just comes across as being egotistical or childish.
The person pulling ahead without communicating they'd like larger pulls is similarly bad, but hot damn. No one ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right?

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The average OF tank has a very fragile ego. Personally I'd feel like I'm not doing my job correctly if someone else pulled instead of me when I'm tanking.

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

I don't really like Rescue because it repositions the pull, which screws up DPS; it pulls mobs out of AoEs, forces DPS who popped CDs to waste time chasing the mobs, etc. If a Healer Rescues me I'll just immediately plunge back towards the mobs in my original position without picking up the extras. Then once I'm back in my original position if the healer wants to run the mobs to me then I'll pick them up.

Rescue as an ability kind of bothers me in general anyways. I wish they'd remove it.

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As a DPS main, I can understand that. But I've dealt with too many tanks moving unnecessarily anyway, so I'm used to it. And dungeons don't need too much optimizing, so they're more annoyances than something too detrimental.

But yeah, that's just me, and I can understand not liking rescue.

Yes every dungeon is boring after you done it multiple already . If you want to explore a dungeon go with your friend/fc or trust .

You are the tank, roulette queue time is like what under 5 mins? If you hate the pace either say something to let the party know or just leave and requeue after 30 mins penalty is up.

and there's no need to rant on forum, 90% of roulette runners just assume it's speed run unless pld or healer say something.

When i do expert roulette as pld, i pull wall to wall, if dps is slow i just drop the run and do something else for 30 mins (alt tab a quick league game) and requeue expert.

you are the tank, you always have the highest privilege.

I can't stand people (generaly healers, and as a healer main, it really makes me mad) who run ahead, pull mobs and don't stick to their tank's butt, splitting packs and making pulls in general less fluid and slower. These are really dumb and selfish players, and shouldn't be praised on forums.

Not trying to be mean but I HATE tanks like that.

Pulling freaking like...1 pack of mobs at a time in acceptable gear...I'm sorry if you can't tank a dgn and don't know how to use your defensive cooldowns that's pretty much useless the whole dungeon aside "arguable" some bosses to cheese.
You shouldn't be playing tank.

Just how it is, nobody wanna be stuck in a dungeon for 40mins/ longer than they have to.

This is more so aggravating in leveling dgns, where people that don't even know how to tank are at and just playing it just to get it to 80.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Not trying to be mean but I HATE tanks like that.

Pulling freaking like...1 pack of mobs at a time in acceptable gear...I'm sorry if you can't tank a dgn and don't know how to use your defensive cooldowns that's pretty much useless the whole dungeon aside "arguable" some bosses to cheese.
You shouldn't be playing tank.

Just how it is, nobody wanna be stuck in a dungeon for 40mins/ longer than they have to.

This is more so aggravating in leveling dgns, where people that don't even know how to tank are at and just playing it just to get it to 80.

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How are they supposed to learn without playing it tho?
Are you trying to help them or do you just complain?

I've had bad experiences where a Tank didn't speak English and was just running in the wrong direction fighting one mob at a time and we had to solo the dungeon without him, but it's extremely rare and an extreme example.
Most of the time people are willing and able to learn if you help them.
It takes time to grow confidence in yourself if you've never played Tank before and you're going through the process of level to 80, the dungeons do get harder and harder.
It's easy as someone who has been playing the game for years and have the power of hindsight but if you're new then you're unfamiliar with all of the dungeons.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Pulling freaking like...1 pack of mobs at a time in acceptable gear...I'm sorry if you can't tank a dgn

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Pulling 1 pack at a time is already tanking a dungeon.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Pulling 1 pack at a time is already tanking a dungeon.

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And using Single target skills on a group of mobs is dpsing.
Just because you're holding aggro on 3 mobs doesn't mean you're playing it right. As a samurai I can tank 3 mobs while the healer heals me, says a lot about how useless a tank is if they pull that much doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

How are they supposed to learn without playing it tho?
Are you trying to help them or do you just complain?

I've had bad experiences where a Tank didn't speak English and was just running in the wrong direction fighting one mob at a time and we had to solo the dungeon without him, but it's extremely rare and an extreme example.
Most of the time people are willing and able to learn if you help them.
It takes time to grow confidence in yourself if you've never played Tank before and you're going through the process of level to 80, the dungeons do get harder and harder.
It's easy as someone who has been playing the game for years and have the power of hindsight but if you're new then you're unfamiliar with all of the dungeons.

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Use common sense. If you're in like a level 15 dungeon sure that's fine.
But if you're in a lv80 dungeon or even level 50 and still don't know how to tank, maybe you shouldn't be tanking if you can handle large pulls and have to only pull each set of like what? 3 mobs? as that's the normal amount of each set of packs.