Unpopular Opinion: Dungeon design has been bad for a long time

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Originally Posted by Rakshazi

I may be slow, but why are you all hate Sastasha so much?

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I think it's more because classes evolve at higher levels, some getting their flavour skills/traits at either level 30 or level caps (50,60,70,80). So at those low levels you are stuck doing nothing but 1-2. Imagine playing healer DPS, but with an actual DPS, the rotation you probably took a modicum of effort to learn is now stripped away from you. At least, that's the reason why I hate leveling roulette as DPS - especially as I'm leveling BLM. Have fun getting back to spamming Fire I till you're out of mana and then Transpose. Hells, I think you don't even get Firestarter until Dzemael - not even that small bit of joy.

It's a theme park game.... that is how they work. Every ride is the same every time - It's the McDonald's of gaming. It's all about the visuals and convenience. Now enjoy your McMMO.

I personally love queueing into level roulette as a 4 man premade of 70+ and being put into Sastasha for the nth time.

Bring back the difficulty of 2.0 Amdapor Keep, and original Pharos Sirius.

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Originally Posted by Rakshazi

I may be slow, but why are you all hate Sastasha so much?

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I don't like the following dungeons because they pop up too often :

• Slackstasha
• Toto-Slack
• Tam Tara Sleepy Croft
• Sleepy Vigil

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Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven

I think it's more because classes evolve at higher levels, some getting their flavour skills/traits at either level 30 or level caps (50,60,70,80). So at those low levels you are stuck doing nothing but 1-2. Imagine playing healer DPS, but with an actual DPS, the rotation you probably took a modicum of effort to learn is now stripped away from you. At least, that's the reason why I hate leveling roulette as DPS - especially as I'm leveling BLM. Have fun getting back to spamming Fire I till you're out of mana and then Transpose. Hells, I think you don't even get Firestarter until Dzemael - not even that small bit of joy.

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I play BLM, capped at L60 until I get through MSQ and unlock HW, and so this has made it difficult for me to get the hang of my current rotation under the pressure of a dungeon or trial. The only ones I can use everything I've learned are the L50's. So when I was doing roulette, and getting lower level dungeons etc., my rotation is gimped; not good when you're still trying to learn the rotations. :D

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Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia

Isn't that Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High?

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you know, if i were the dev, i would make a randomize dungeon like POTD or HOH.

- just put it under daily run
- randomize dungeon, called infinite dungeon or something
- reward depend on your level (lots of exp if you are not max level, tomes if your level is max)
- tile set is mix match from all dungeon tiles (just make it "room" based with portal/jump pad connecting to other "room")
- enemy is basically random from all available dungeon (just sync their level to players party)
- including the boss too

thats it, this dungeon could last forever.

It's funny how ARR leveling dungeons had some of the best and most ambitious design in the game. We never get branching paths or particularly difficult mobs anymore. Like the patrolling dragons in SV that could wipe you if you weren't careful, I'd love for just that alone to be bought back.

Amaurot has a job that targets the healer and reduces healing potency, but who cares when you can still brute force through it. It's not hindering the pull in any way.

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Originally Posted by Rakshazi

I may be slow, but why are you all hate Sastasha so much?

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I dislike it because despite being one of those "tutorial" dgns, it will still manage to rope you in even though no one is new and/or waay too high leveled for the place. Basically, my personal rules is if I'm any role and no ones new, I bail. If I'm tank/heal and someone's new, I'll stay, otherwise I bail as a dps cuz dps are dime a dozen

My 2 complaints about dungeons in this game is:

1. I know they are dungeons instead of open world, but it be nice to sometimes have random traps or hidden rooms that enemies might or might not come from. The rooms will always be there, but not always populated with enemies. This would make the dungeon a little more random.

2. I wish the expert roulette, which is often the one you spam the most at the end of current game, would have more than 3 in the list. Why not leave the other 80s in that list and just add to it till next expansion comes out so that we are not spamming the same 3 to 4 dungeons?

Oh, on a side note, if all players that get matched up are say past level 50, then why do get a level 15 or 20 dungeon more often than a higher level 1?

A lot of the early dungeons had puzzles which I liked. And the 2nd boss of the steppe. Honestly. I would like more multiple path dungeons like "The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak" just no slow goo though.