Play poll: No Open world vs Instanced world?

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Originally Posted by NadienKirisame

See Rokien... this right here is where you start to lose... This is also what both sides of this can not see eye to eye. Someone has a different opinion and someone I either side will state "you want this" or "you don't like this" go play X game. And once you start doing that you are in the wrong...

Is there no way that there can be both open world content and instanced content? I'm sure there will still be strongholds and things of that nature in the game as open world... I'm also sure that even if Yoshi said all dungeons will be instanced that will not really happen and there will be some open world ones. The fact both sides of this take it to such extremes... Though as I have said before... you humans do like to attack each other over nothing...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

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I've stated many times that instances have their place, but when EVERY ACTIVITY is instanced(that drops something worth while) it becomes an issue. Right now, all gear that you should be getting, is inside an instanced. Especially the darklight armor that is out now.

Everyone is level 50 pretty much, so what is there to do? Go in an instanced dungeon and get the best armor, that's not good game design(also my opinion).

Also, I was more or less, stating that this game will turn into gw1 or vindictus if the rate of instanced areas continue. Sorry, I played FFXI for the community and how many things there was to do OUTSIDE of an instanced area.
Right now its the same, grab the same 8 people- go in the dungeon. There is nothing adventuring or exciting about that.

As i've stated, I like instanced content just not when instanced> open world.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I've stated many times that instances have their place, but when EVERY ACTIVITY is instanced(that drops something worth while) it becomes an issue. Right now, all gear that you should be getting, is inside an instanced. Especially the darklight armor that is out now.

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Yes, because we REALLY need to spend time fighting for claims and then waiting after we fail. That makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Also, I was more or less, stating that this game will turn into gw1 or vindictus if the rate of instanced areas continue. Sorry, I played FFXI for the community and how many things there was to do OUTSIDE of an instanced area.

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Not at all. GW1 and Vindicktits had channels, and aren't even considered MMOs by the developers who make the games. FFXIV has no channels at all. The game has a 100% open world, and a few small dungeons that are instanced. This is the way the game should be going. Not all of us want to slave away 10 hours in front of a mob hoping to claim it for a small chance at getting the item that we want.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

As i've stated, I like instanced content just not when instanced> open world.

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Except this is not the way that the game will be going. I'm pretty sure Yoshida wants to stick to a completely open world with no channels. You're overreacting.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Yes, because we REALLY need to spend time fighting for claims and then waiting after we fail. That makes sense.



Not at all. GW1 and Vindicktits had channels, and aren't even considered MMOs by the developers who make the games. FFXIV has no channels at all. The game has a 100% open world, and a few small dungeons that are instanced. This is the way the game should be going. Not all of us want to slave away 10 hours in front of a mob hoping to claim it for a small chance at getting the item that we want.



Except this is not the way that the game will be going. I'm pretty sure Yoshida wants to stick to a completely open world with no channels. You're overreacting.

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never said anything about channels..... I'm talking about them turning every dungeon into an instanced raid.... I'm just comparing them.

>Don't have to camp if you don't want to, you didn't in ffxi.
>it's not 100% open world, if it was we wouldn't have instanced raids
>It's not completely open world........ so no I'm not overreacting when he said hes going to turn all dungeons into instanced areas.(basically a channel, wanna know why? Because I'm fighting ifrit with my group, you are also fighitng ifrit in your group, but we don't see each other..... hmmmmm......same thing as a channel.)

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Originally Posted by Rokien

>Don't have to camp if you don't want to, you didn't in ffxi.

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How could you think that this is a good point? This is the equivalent of "if you don't like it, don't play it." People who didn't camp in FFXI didn't get to play the game.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

How could you think that this is a good point? This is the equivalent of "if you don't like it, don't play it." People who didn't camp in FFXI didn't get to play the game.

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It's the same argument that you guys do with "IF YOU DON'T LIKE GUUBOOO, ANIMA, WHATEVER DON'T USE IT HURP DURP"
Also you didn't have to get leaping boots or the epin stuff like that >.>

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Originally Posted by Rokien

It's the same argument that you guys do with "IF YOU DON'T LIKE GUUBOOO, ANIMA, WHATEVER DON'T USE IT HURP DURP"

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Yes, because you have other options. If you don't want to use a goobbue, you have a chocobo. If you don't want to use anima, you have airships, teleports, walking, and mounts.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Yes, because you have other options. If you don't want to use a goobbue, you have a chocobo. If you don't want to use anima, you have airships, teleports, walking, and mounts.

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I'm not even going to list off the other options you had for gear in ffxi.......

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I'm not even going to list off the other options you had for gear in ffxi.......

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I would love to hear the alternative ways I could get Zenith Mitts, Algol, or Ridill.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I would love to hear the alternative ways I could get Zenith Mitts, Algol, or Ridill.

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LOL Leaping Boots was all he could listed, i have serious doubt he ever seen anything like Dalmatica or E.Body. God, i hope OP can proof me wrong lmao. I can't take him seriously now.

If Leaping boots NM is what he wants, we already have mid-level NMs that are in open world.

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How could you think that this is a good point? This is the equivalent of "if you don't like it, don't play it." People who didn't camp in FFXI didn't get to play the game.

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This was very true for many many years, people were stuck and couldnt play the game due to best gears coming from open world HNMs. Solutions doesn't really come until Aht Urgan expansion which includes... guess what? MANY MANY INSTANCES woot!

Which offers many great pieces that are compareable to what ground HNMs offers,
Nashira/Homam from Limbus INSTANCES.
Every single piece from Salvage INSTANCES.

Let's also not forget dynamis INSTANCES, this was one of the early solution so people that couldn't claim HNMs in open worlds to have something to look forward too and to stop them from spotting AH gear or AF1.




Fact is, there was nothing in your post which merits open world, all u can say is just how you hates the idea of open world without a clear justifying.



and let me even clearer with what your reason were.

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Rank 20 dungeon:
-Has more to it
-Meet new people(party up with strangers)
-NMs that you have to do certain things to make em pop(from what I understand)
-Chests that have random drops(HAVE TO BE OPEN BY KEYS)<---big thing for me.
-Different level of chests(rare keys to common)
-Multiple floors
-Not instanced
-Fun and thrill of the hunt(claiming the nm)

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1. Has more to what? you mean it's only bigger because the content was designed for the whole server instead of 8 people?

2. Don't give me this crap, i make friends all the time doing instanced in this game or FFXI.

3. Yeah.. this is also possible in any instanced.

4,5,6. Chests also have random drops in Aurum's/Cutter's, sup? Cutter's have multiple floors too, sup?

7,8. Lol claiming the NM to be part of the thrill. People were happy when they get claims because they can finally fight something not when they were attempting to claim.

I agree with OP, less instances and more open-world content. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

How could you think that this is a good point? This is the equivalent of "if you don't like it, don't play it." People who didn't camp in FFXI didn't get to play the game.

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Bull.

I played FFXI for years without camping.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I would love to hear the alternative ways I could get Zenith Mitts, Algol, or Ridill.

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Z.mitts = meh, generally overrated
Algol = completely overrated... paladins didn't DPS, Warriors used G.Axe, and DRK w/ GSword sucked.
Ridill = the most overrated P.O.S. equipment in FFXI, hands-down.