What is this class design of Dancer?

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

It is just me, or does both your "No one is forcing you to play it" really mean "Please don't voice your dissent on the forums".

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I took it as, "no one is forcing you to play it".

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

I've been messing around with Dancer hitting a dummy and the whole class feels like a way worse MCH in terms of "50% chance to unlock an ability for execution":

• 2 single-target + 2 AoE abilities are always usable, also you can use Standard Dance on CD
• 4 abilities are of the "50% chance to unlock" kind
• 2 abilities are "50% chance to unlock after using a 50% chance to unlock ability"

How is this class any fun?
Pressing the same 4 buttons over and over, hoping that one of the other 4, any then maybe one of the other 2 will unlock.

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congratulations. you just played for a few minutes/looked at the hotbars while lvl60. that's not what it's like when it's actually leveled.

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

I've been messing around with Dancer hitting a dummy and the whole class feels like a way worse MCH in terms of "50% chance to unlock an ability for execution":

• 2 single-target + 2 AoE abilities are always usable, also you can use Standard Dance on CD
• 4 abilities are of the "50% chance to unlock" kind
• 2 abilities are "50% chance to unlock after using a 50% chance to unlock ability"

How is this class any fun?
Pressing the same 4 buttons over and over, hoping that one of the other 4, any then maybe one of the other 2 will unlock.

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There is (IMO) a good proc rate system (bard), and bad ones like this.

You would be surprised, in practice stuff procs quite often, and you are constantly doing something with the edition of flourish.

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Originally Posted by Baka_Neko1

congratulations. you just played for a few minutes/looked at the hotbars while lvl60. that's not what it's like when it's actually leveled.

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Are you sure, and where's your actual argument?

I just read the traits/future skills: I get Flourish with a 60sec CD to unlock every "50% proc chance" ability, and that's all there is, as the 50% chance stays the same, even at lvl 80.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

You would be surprised, in practice stuff procs quite often, and you are constantly doing something with the edition of flourish.

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Getting DNC to 63 I had plenty of situations where I just pressed 1 2 for Cascade and Fountain over and over, and nothing proc'd, or 3 4 Windmill and Bladeshower.
Then there are times where odds are in my favor and I proc abilities left and right.

It is fun when everything becomes available, but up until that point it's utterly boring being reduced to smash 2 2-button rotations, hoping that you can actually play the class, as the majority of your actual abilities and rotation is locked behind a 50% chance.

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

Getting DNC to 63 I had plenty of situations where I just pressed 1 2 for Cascade and Fountain over and over, and nothing proc'd, or 3 4 Windmill and Bladeshower.
Then there are times where odds are in my favor and I proc abilities left and right.

It is fun when everything becomes available, but up until that point it's utterly boring being reduced to smash 2 2-button rotations, hoping that you can actually play the class, as the majority of your actual abilities and rotation is locked behind a 50% chance.

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It is not that simple dancer utilizes all of it's abilities to do damage. Standard finish does damage, and technical finish does massive damage while also increasing party members damage. Utilizing Devilment combined with Flourish gives you some high burst, and at that point I am finding myself with too many abilities to fire off at any given time. Timing flows very well with the class. It probably has, as far as I can tell, some of the best aoe - if not the best - aoe overall in the game.

You can increase your dance partners damage even higher, especially if you have a buddy who you know can utilize damage at the right time - to use their burst when you get your technical finish combined with your devilment. While also utilizing some surprisingly potent group healing as long as you are stacked with you and your partner - plus shield samba.

My guess OP should avoid lotteries at all cost, thats what i think. xD

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Originally Posted by Millybonk

How is this class any fun?

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Well, "fun" is subjective. As some other users pointed, if you're not having any fun, then it isn't for you. This does not necessarily mean there's anything inherently wrong with the class. It just means it doesn't fit your playstyle. Play a different Job.

I personally love dancer. It's super fast paced, and the fact that I feel like i can run around without any care and toss my weapons and dance gives me such a sense of excitement! If you don't like the job... Then don't play it? I, for one, love it!