An interview with Yoshida and his thoughts on healers in 5.0

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Originally Posted by Kalise

Direct Healing
Healing Over Time
Reactive Healing
Shields
Channeled Healing
Healing from dealing Damage

Compared to what? DPS?

Cast a damage
Slap a damage
Shoot a damage
Uhh... Damage over time
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This. The basic classifications only barely scratch the surface of differentiating gameplay and capacity, and we still have most of the basic differentiators left to go anyways.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Scholars are going to get nuked so hard ><

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I think I will not begin the expansion with him ^^ (excepted if they show us superbe new skills during the video presentation).

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Originally Posted by Hustensaft

If they really want to nerf fairy, they should get rid of Rouse. That alone is a 10% nerf to all fairy healing, even more as rouse syncs quite perfectly with whispering dawn.

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Whispering Dawn was changed to an ability several patches ago and is no longer a spell, therefore Rouse has no effect on it. Only Embrace actually gets any benefits from it, as it's the only spell (not ability) left for the Faeries to use.

I have a feeling this will be the expansion of the WHM. To where since they didnt add a new healer job they had to make WHM perfect.

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Originally Posted by Derio

I have a feeling this will be the expansion of the WHM. To where since they didnt add a new healer job they had to make WHM perfect.

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Yeah that was supposed to be SB. And WHM was great for all of what 3 weeks at launch before they started buffing up SCH and AST (not to say they didn't need it but at the time WHM had be 6+ months significantly below the other healers).

Since long time we need those QoL updates, but indeed, that buffed AST and SCH a lot.
WHM should have had the same treatment.

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Originally Posted by Enla

I still remember the state SCH was in when SB came out. We had trouble healing most dungeons due to our reduced potency and I very much felt like a burden to my FC whenever we would do content together on the road to 70. Hell the person who taught me SCH outright quit the class and moved to AST/WHM in the aftermath of it and still hasn't come back due to how badly SCH started the 4.0 patch cycle. Which is to say nothing of the fact that they then buffed us and then OVER buffed us over the course of the expansion because they once again just fundamentally don't understand how to balance the healers in this game.

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That reminds me of the tale of 3.0 AST weak pitiful beginnings to i can stand with my fellow healers to I AM A GOD OF BUFFS.

I hope ShB will be Whm's Overbuffed expansion

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Do I want WHM to get something more than just personal DPS and healing (that, let's be honest here, the other two healers are on par with, or even surpass)? HELL YES!
I even got some ideas I think might work for the job, like, for example, a DH group buff. IIRC, that's something nobody has yet, and that would work really, really well. But yeah, I'm totally waiting for tacking that on AST, as they did with the crit buff we asked for pre-3.0 and that went to SCH instead...
They also need to overwork this horrid Lily system; heck, they could even make that into the mechanic that differentiates WHM from the other healers in a way! I'm fine with almost anything at this point, really.
And, for the love of the Twelve, overwork this useless garbage trait that is Secret of the Lily II -.-

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AST sects definitely need a rework i was thinking(posted in another thread) of something like this
Duirnal - AB/AH - Increase card buff potency cannot stack cannot be refreshed same healing potency
Nocturnal - AB/AH - Increase card buff duration cannot stack cannot be refreshed same healing potency
Let them keep the speed/healing increase but force ast kit to synergies more with its cards as it's base healing kit is fine without regens/shields. Now Ast with these changes will be forced to gcd heal far more often lowering their pDPS but their rDPS will be increased as the trade off.

Whm does need changes it's lilies system is the prime offender it also needs straight up utility to increase rDPS or provide Substantially more pDPS than the other 2 healers and if Ast got the above changes Whm would have its identity back as a regen healer

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Whispering Dawn was changed to an ability several patches ago and is no longer a spell, therefore Rouse has no effect on it. Only Embrace actually gets any benefits from it, as it's the only spell (not ability) left for the Faeries to use.

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And Embrace is still the problem child because of how much it ultimately provides just by virtue of the Scholar being alive. Hopefully they do a thorough redesign to make the fairy revolve more around things like micromanagement, Excog, and Fey Union instead of just nuking Embrace's potency.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

And Embrace is still the problem child because of how much it ultimately provides just by virtue of the Scholar being alive. Hopefully they do a thorough redesign to make the fairy revolve more around things like micromanagement, Excog, and Fey Union instead of just nuking Embrace's potency.

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I'm half expecting them to nuke the Fairy and SCH's heals and try and make Fairies work like Demi-Bahamut. Whereby they don't auto-cast Embrace but merely use it in addition to your own casts instead making it merely a potency boost to your GCD heals with the caveat of having lower potency heals (Which I expect them to make a mess of and thus make Adlo suck due to having a lower shield because they forgot it was still based on the heal amount)

Theoretically this could be done in a way where there can be more focus on using Fairies for their abilities and less for their free Embraces constantly through a fight. But given how derp AI still is, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up a colossal failure...

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Originally Posted by Daralii

And Embrace is still the problem child because of how much it ultimately provides just by virtue of the Scholar being alive. Hopefully they do a thorough redesign to make the fairy revolve more around things like micromanagement, Excog, and Fey Union instead of just nuking Embrace's potency.

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Effectively, Embrace is roughly 10% of healing done in a raid. That might be a lot for a passive thing, but what people seem to forget is:

Embrace only is strong because there overall is so little damage to heal - between oGCDs, Absorbs, and the occasional AoE HoT, Embrace is just the perfect fit to top people off to 100%.