Wrongful kicking people on third boss in new Ivalice raid

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

I hate to be mean but the performance I've seen from players is soooo much worse in this raid than in Ridorana Lighthouse. Even day 1 it wasn't this bad, and I'll be honest Ridorana is a lot harder than this raid so I really don't understand why things are going so badly.

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I see it the other way around. I find Ridorana to be a joke in comparison. Even day 1 my first run only had one single wipe to Yiazmat. I've done two runs of the Monastery so far and my second run was worse than the first, lasting 105 minutes. We had several wipes to the third boss mostly because alliance A was too busy bickering among themselves (stop standing in narnia, I dont heal stupid, etc etc). At least half of their party had to be replaced and surely enough we nearly killed him the very next attempt. Then we killed him on the attempt after that.

Sure there's kicking on that boss but from what I've seen it is justified, though this will not speak for all cases.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraLotusx

Ye people are really shity there. Its first day abd people expect perfect clears. Just report. Dont let it go.

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I had the luck to run it the first time with a very patient and well behaved group. Second time, people were acting like they were best but we still wiped sometimes - still, we could make it through to the end.

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

I hate to be mean but the performance I've seen from players is soooo much worse in this raid than in Ridorana Lighthouse. Even day 1 it wasn't this bad, and I'll be honest Ridorana is a lot harder than this raid so I really don't understand why things are going so badly. Like what is so hard about 3 people stand in the circles?? And yet every time I try to run this we wipe at that mechanic 5 times.

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Ridorana is way easier than this and it was on the same level of wipes as the new 24 man raid is. Its the same for every 24 man raid except they are as faceroll as void arc.

We didn't kick someone, but I personally named and shamed them in alliance chat after the 4th time they ran to our Dusk circle to become an unwelcome extra body.

Their party thanked me, because up til then he hadn't been "paying attention" to alliance chat.... or party chat, apparently.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

I see it the other way around. I find Ridorana to be a joke in comparison. Even day 1 my first run only had one single wipe to Yiazmat. I've done two runs of the Monastery so far and my second run was worse than the first, lasting 105 minutes. We had several wipes to the third boss mostly because alliance A was too busy bickering among themselves (stop standing in narnia, I dont heal stupid, etc etc). At least half of their party had to be replaced and surely enough we nearly killed him the very next attempt. Then we killed him on the attempt after that.

Sure there's kicking on that boss but from what I've seen it is justified, though this will not speak for all cases.

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The thing tho is that this raid isn't about skill, it's about doing what you are supposed to. All of the mechanics are easy as hell to pull off, it's just that people refuse to learn. Wipes=/=difficulty. Simply that this raid has a lot of mechanics where if you don't do it, you wipe everyone. Ridorana has a lot of personal problem solving, personal movement responsibility, personal awareness... Orbonne has? Line up marker to boss, stand in circle, avoid line aoes. And yet... people... don't... do... it.

The first time I ran it there was one kick in my party: A BRD who didn't do any mechanics despite everyone (party and alliances) telling him how to do them, and who preferred to stay dead after a wipe or when getting rezzed.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

It seems this is happening now in the new raid, I know its the first day of the raid but been seeing this alot today, heck, I JUST got kicked after joining in a group that was on the third boss, we wiped and they kicked me.

SPOILERS

Its Thunder god Cid

No instructions what I need to do, no instructions on what their placement was. Just kicked.

I think I may give this raid a few weeks before trying again cause right now, people are really making it stressful on these kicks and yelling.

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OP, look me up on Balmung. I'll run with you and bring some friends. Nobody will be kicking you.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Cid is a pretty easy and simple fight, the only things really that justifies explaining is him having 3(technically 4) different versions T.G. Holy Blade, and his Crush Armor tether...

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I think I missed something oO Why is everyone calling the thundergod "Cid"?

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Originally Posted by Zazay

I think I missed something oO Why is everyone calling the thundergod "Cid"?

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Because his "model" from the Ivalice-saga is Cidolfus Orlandeau - or Cid for short.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cidolfus_Orlandeau

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Originally Posted by Zazay

I think I missed something oO Why is everyone calling the thundergod "Cid"?

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Because that's his name T.G.Cid, "The Thunder God" Cidolfus Orlandau from FFTactics.
He even announces his name when you enter the arena "I am Cidolfus Orlandau blah blah blah!"
Every Final Fantasy has a Cid and he was Tactics'.