please consider ending the mentor system

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I have met some truly awful players.

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There, I fixed it for you.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

The mentor system is very very flawed. It's far too easy to become a mentor. I have met some truly awful players with the mentor tag. Literally anyone can get it.

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mentor system isn't that flawed. there are awful people out there so you can't make a system preventing awful players not to join. that's why there is a report or blacklist systemi have seen MANY non-mentor awful players too, faar too many. so being awful isn't related to being a mentor. And SE really says ''inappropriate behaviour of a mentor can be reported''. Mentors can get suspensions even, idk tbh, but in theory if they are disrespectful in any way, you can report them. And apart from some of the rare cases, in my experience, if you are awful to others, they will be awful to you too. If you are nice, they will be nice. If a mentor sees a problem and points out, then you should at least listen. It is up to you to take the advice or not. But if you approach with hostility, mentor will neutrally seem awful to you because you see every mentor awful. (You here is in general, i am not addressing to anyone btw:) ) And not anyone can get the mentor title, there are requirements. Do i believe the requirements should be updated a bit? Yes. But that doesn't mean people aren't deserving to be mentors. And again this system is here for new players. Mentors are to welcome newbies and introduce several gameplay elements to them. They are not here for end-game. You can't expect mentor system to be gained really hard. A player who has knowledge on certain things should have the right, which right now, in my opinion, it is.

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Originally Posted by Yeol

Mentor system brought two good things.
- Novice Network.
- Duty Roulette: Mentor.

The Novice Network is where you’ll find most new players asking for help or general questions related to the game.
Duty Roulette: Mentor is a filler roulette. Mainly to help with queue times.

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I honestly had no idea about the whole Novice Network thing until I was around 45 and somebody invited me >_<

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Originally Posted by Yenyen

I honestly had no idea about the whole Novice Network thing until I was around 45 and somebody invited me >_<

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how did you avoid seeing the game tell you about it when you first started? it tells you about the hall of novice and such where the npc talks about it

The bad examples are always the loudest. For every mentor I've played with (before and after I became one) that was absolutely horrendous, I have several stories of ones who were amazing. Maybe if you're stereotyping a group of people on a few bad eggs, you're also being a bad player yourself.

I think that they should have updated the system a bit when SB came out. Bump everything to 70. The NN needs to be fixed. On my server it's nothing more then a glorified public chat, and I refuse to take part in it.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

There, I fixed it for you.

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You're missing the point. The point is truly awful players shouldn't even be able to get it. I'm talking about things like 60+ players who appear to hardly know how to play the game but have the mentor tag anyway.

I understand that you can never escape bad players, this is life. But I can't understand anyone who thinks the mentor system is fine when even horrendous players can get the mentor tag.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

You're missing the point. The point is truly awful players shouldn't even be able to get it.

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How then? They only way I see this is possible if the gm team gets heavily involved and SE wont put that kind of money into it.

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Originally Posted by LastFireAce

Yea your new... So let me get you up to speed boi.
Yes Mentor are regular player just as you and I.
3 different class job at lv60
300 Commendation
1000 Dungeon
Easy stuff....
So MOST of the player just want the little Crown, because is cool, some of them think they the best or whatever.
Now thing is... True Mentor don't wear the crown unless they do the mentor roulette. They help people out and stuff with you no even knowing.
Btw Mentor Roulette is like every other Daily Roulette just to help Q time. ;)

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yea boi ur so cool ^^

I was never invited to the novice network so just muddled through on my own and with friends.

I imagine if we had a separate ability to rate someone's mentoring skill (that did not require a person to hang out after the end of a duty), that might be a more accurate reflection of someone as a mentor.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

how did you avoid seeing the game tell you about it when you first started? it tells you about the hall of novice and such where the npc talks about it

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I mean I saw it but I figured the game would invite me or something along those lines, a way to apply on my own