Are people really like this?

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content.

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It only takes 1 person uploading a log to provide all the analysis the team typically needs. The PS4 is equally capable of uploading a video feed for video replays if required as well. The main disparity for world first progression is trigger based callouts but many teams will usually have someone calling key mechanics over voice comms anyhow, not really a problem.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

I partly disagree with this statement.
The standard ps4 runs the game quite poorly i have to admit it, but the pro is running it at 60 fps with similar graphics.
And the playstation version is more stable, you could drop of the game in the middle of the city and the game will run for hours and hours, not talking about the connection to the server because thats purely random, the PS OS however is really stable when it comes to run games in extended period of time way better than windows 10 or xbox os.
And yes i have a pc, but thats a laptop, but im not playing it, since it sounds like its going to take off like a plane. XD



I have my game on for about 5 hours now, 50-60 fps all the time, you can call it a consistent OS running that game right there.

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You're still missing out on some details/fps. I've seen it run on a pro. But I also play on a high end desktop so I can't even compare the two in the end. But regardless you're not going to know if you don't see them side by side (I saw my PS4 vs my husbands potato PC, potato PC won, so I got a PC that blew his potato out of the water.). So the point is moot. When I was on the PS4 I got a stable fps (whatever it was since you can't really tell) and it played just fine even with the HD options when they released those options on PS4. But you get alot more options on PC and customization. When I said stable I meant fps and graphic stability, not OS (OS is a side point once you start up a game and generally has little effect on the game unless your windows and you just want to ruin peoples days). Most current OS on any console run just fine for hours on end. You can run pretty much any game active or idle for hours on end, done it on xbox, ps4 and pc XP. On PC I play generally about 10 hours at a time on weekends (idle and active) depending on if I raid. PS4 starts sounding like a jet engine after 3 hours, but I mean, it still runs. So long as you have good airflow, you won't have any problems, if you don't youre going to run into every problem on the planet. My buddy had a PC where FFXIV would always crash, but it was due to poor planning on his part when he built his PC and it had a massive overheating problem.

And man those laptops get insanely loud with games, I can't really blame you.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

While "PC master race" started as and intended to be a joke... players are very much serious about it and really do belittle the platform player. Some threads even in this forum suggested that is the case when the occasional HD texture pack for PC players thread comes up; and get's rejected for PS4 consumers holding them down for fairness sake. The same can be said as well for in-game parsers. There're a portion of players who really do view PSN players to be "street rats".

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Some are crazy about bringing down console players and I just don't understand it. Though I really do wish there was an HD texture pack....The giant pixels when you zoom in make me a bit sad. But I also don't mind them not releasing it due to console restrictions. I'd rather more people be able to play this game than less.

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Originally Posted by Jellybums

I hear this PS4 is only for people who can't buy gaming PCs comment come up a lot in this type of discussion. I used to play on PC, switched to PS4 so I can sit on the couch and get away from the PC after being on it all day at work. Plus I can get up and walk around with controller in hand while playing on a TV screen big enough for me to read text from across the room. I just wish PS4s had more USB slots so I can keep the keyboard, controller cable, mouse, and external HD plugged in all the time. Anyway it's just a platform, a preference, and each option has pros and cons. But if you are big on metagaming, PS4s are probably not for you.

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That's when you hook your PC up to a TV XP yes, pc purists just cringed at me saying that, but I've done it. It's great for gaming while still maintaining a PC experience.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content. Note that this has nothing to do with using KB+M or console controller, many PC players switched to PS4 controllers now.

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While PC players may have more tools at their disposal, that doesn't mean PS4 players are any worse. World first teams, usually are comprised of hard core pc mmo/mmorpg players in general, regardless the game you play. That doesn't mean a PS4 player couldn't achieve the same.

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Not sure what this non-sense is about. I play on PS4, yes I can't figure out my numbers, but I have peeps for that, that do not mind.

As far as end game though, I beat first coils and half 2nd coils back on my PS3 (yes w/ SSD though.) Raiding has never been an issue for me on PS4 either (and has been more fun visually at least on PS4.)

Raiding is not solely based around PC, you can easily raid (even w/o FFlogs and parsers) on PS4.

Talking in Discord has never been an issue or any voice chat really. It's why I have my laptop beside me while I play. I know I'm probably the minority in that respect, but yes people do have smart phones and I know a lot of other PS4 players who do use at least their phone to chat in Discord.

So unless it's just people you have just come across who are stubborn that is a very wrong and unnecessary broad general statement about PS4 players.

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thanks for at least bringing a headset/laptop to discord. because open-mic from a cell phone is just suffering to listen to.

Lol they wouldn't know a PS gamer anyway only we can see each others PS ID's ;)

Either way that is super dumb, in a game like this it doesn't even matter it's not a shooter game.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

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For those saying PS4 version runs crappy? What's crappy? I have both, but my baby PS4 - not pro- is on 24/7 and I've notice no drops or lag. The lag I do see is not from the game but from comcast as they had some isues the last day with an outage in my area. Yes the pro runs it better but and this is me low balling.. I say the difference is 40 to 60? Either or my gameplay on XIV on my baby PS4 is anything but crappy. Mosto f my PC friends I'm talking too are wishing they had my fps and stableness. Then again most people aren't running anything better than apro on their PC says stream so who knows. But that's stream saying that. But that was a year ago I seen that and it might've been hyperbole so who knows. If anyone knows what stream said or meant please help. As I can't remember the details but only the headline I read somewhere. I do wish PS4 could use links in the chatblock tho. - doesn't have any PC so yes.. I'm typing this on controller on my PS4.-

Eh, thats the typical competitive PC mustard race in a nut shell, the same player who's accusing some one else of hacking because they're better than them and oh boy is no one better than yourself at gaming right? zzzz

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

It's no different from racism in retrospect.

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2 thumbs up?

....what is wrong with these forums.

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Originally Posted by ko_

For those saying PS4 version runs crappy? What's crappy? I have both, but my baby PS4 - not pro- is on 24/7 and I've notice no drops or lag. The lag I do see is not from the game but from comcast as they had some isues the last day with an outage in my area. Yes the pro runs it better but and this is me low balling.. I say the difference is 40 to 60? Either or my gameplay on XIV on my baby PS4 is anything but crappy. Mosto f my PC friends I'm talking too are wishing they had my fps and stableness. Then again most people aren't running anything better than apro on their PC says stream so who knows. But that's stream saying that. But that was a year ago I seen that and it might've been hyperbole so who knows. If anyone knows what stream said or meant please help. As I can't remember the details but only the headline I read somewhere. I do wish PS4 could use links in the chatblock tho. - doesn't have any PC so yes.. I'm typing this on controller on my PS4.-

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explanation for the current steam(not stream) survey is that the gtx 750ti is the most used card on the platform, at 14.61% of the people taking part in the survey. this card was very popular in rigs aiming to perform as well or better than the vanilla ps4. budget systems tend to use reliable, affordable cards that don't require a connection to the power supply or a PSU over 350-400 watts. alternatively, they use these things to upgrade a business desktop(good ones for budget gaming can be found on ebay for as low as $100-150) and play from there. the price is close to what the console market demands and the performance is oftentimes great at 1080p depending on what games you want to play.

however, behind it are cards like the gtx 960(14.06%), the 1060(13.41%). these cards are the next step up and require connections to the PSU instead of just drawing power through the motherboard(motherboard slots can channel up to 75 watts currently).
Behind THAT is the gtx 1050 ti(9.90%), which is like the 750 ti but better. since a lot of budget gamers don't buy the new stuff just because it's out, this card might require some time to completely overtake it's predecessor.
behind the 1050ti is the gtx 950(6.03%), a card which I am surprised to see there because it had nothing noteworthy to comment about. I'm guessing it's picked because it's quite affordable.

And then there's others but I just wanted to cover the top 5. the thing is, you have to go through the whole list because just reading the top card tells you next to nothing when there's so many cards that any single one of them has a very low chance of making up even 20% of the survey. and the closest we have right now is a card that was heavily fan-publicized for it's affordability and utility. even THAT only gets 14%.

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Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer

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My husband had a 760 in his potato, and even with lowering some settings and resolution ran fantastically better than a ps4. It's quite impressive it can run so well on such a dated card. But the game was made originally with ps3 support, so it's also not the most surprising at the same time.

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For those saying PS4 version runs crappy? What's crappy?

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40 to 60 fps at lower graphic quality and draw rates.

BUT People only say it runs crappy cuz theyve seen it on better graphics and/or on higher fps than 60. If you don't know anything but lower end pc's or the ps4 itself you will never notice this. EVER. It's like how I can't go back to playing it on the PS4 since my PC knocks the PS4 out of the park (I run a 1080ti......). There's nothing wrong with the PS4, but its just something I notice more when playing games on it that bug me enough to push me back to my PC. It's simply personal preference in that regard. It doesnt mean low end PC's or PS4's suck and are detrimental to the FFXIV experience. Not one bit. Unless you were on a PS3... then maybe a little.