I see one guy that feels superior yet shouldn't... Everyone can use hallowed after a big pull, everyone can do a power pull and use his CDs properly in a dungeon speed run... At least, anyone who care... What defines a good dungeon-tank is his ability to adjust, and not be a prick doing it, I'd add...Quote:
Sounds like the people defending the bad healers here are the ones who need to git gud and stop trying to feel smug and superior when someone complains about a legitimately bad tactic in large dungeon pulls
Now please, try again with less hate in your mouth, and more thinking in your head...
Again the regen thing! Wasn't it gone and done?
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08-20-2017, 05:02 AMArcaviusGreyashe
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08-20-2017, 05:02 AMMirateskiI was saying I was casting cure(2) DURING the pull, not as it finishes. As soon as a tank stops I sc>holy>PoM>holyx3>assize etc. Who wants to cast heals after a pull is gathered? lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterLucie
I both tank and heal those dungeons and I never either need pregens nor use them. And I routinely do the daft pulls if I'm with at least one person that I know will do them properly, be that keeping me alive, holding the aggro, or bringing the mad deeps.
If a tank is at 50% hp by the time they're done pulling two packs, they either need better gear or the mobs got some very lucky DHs in. Use awareness or rampart while pulling, pop a big one when you stop, if you're gonna be taking hits.
And I frequently request that healers don't pregen me if they do, and tell them that when I use CoS that's my "I'm stopping here" cue. I mention it to anyone with bubbles to place, too. Talk. It's not hard!
I wasn't angry, btw. Just explaining my viewpoint.
EDIT: lmfao people are insulting the op and telling them to "git gud" constantly and I throw it back at them and suddenly I'm an evil salt mine of hate and anger? Please. -
08-20-2017, 05:19 AMTheCookieGod
If only every healer with access to a regen had some sort of instant cast heal - or multiple instant heals if they use cds - then this nonsense about tanks being almost dead by the time they're finished pulling could be solved with the press of a button.
Oh well. Maybe some day SE will give us such tools.
But no really, any pull where where people seem to be trying to justify a pregen - ie any pull where the tank's health depletes rapidly - a regen is negligible because the tank is getting rekt and generally needs big kid heals to be stabilized and then maybe a regen afterward to help keep them stable.
Any other pull - ie pulling one pack at a time - the tank's not dying fast enough and you can give them a moment to punch mobs in the face once before you get regen happy. -
08-20-2017, 05:32 AMFredco191
I'm not supposed to do that?!
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08-20-2017, 05:53 AMJybril
Why are people defending this? There is no point whatsoever
to ever do this. As a tank in training....Stop doing this, please.
Everyone likes to cry tears about how runs aren't at SuperSonicSpeeds sometimes but did you know?
You're wasting time by regening us tanks, then we have to turn around, chase you and the mobs and keep
them together. Wasting peoples time and getting frustrated by doing unnecessary things to make the tank do more work.
I do not do this and I'm a healer main. You need big heals when tanks grab a lot, Lagrasse (sp) and keep up from there.
Regen doesn't do much on the initial huge packs because you're pumping the big heals.
Wait a while, time allows? Regen and now you may have time to DPS alongside the others while regen rolls.
TLDR; Please stop pre-pull regens.
Irony in the post, but you're telling us to "git gud / l2play" and this comment here isn't hateful?Quote:
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08-20-2017, 06:01 AMZarabeth
Ok speaking as a healer, it's embarrassing how bad a lot of healers are now. Regen has been there all along. Most of us are just smart enough to not use it before pulls. The best way to teach a healer not to do it is to let them die when they do. They die enough they'll stop.
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08-20-2017, 07:18 AMFelisSo long the healer don't run away out of rangeQuote:
Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe
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08-20-2017, 07:38 AMPaladinleedsI have this on my hotbar. Every time they cast a HoT on me, I use that macro. They soon tend to get the message.Quote:
/statusoff "Regen"
/statusoff "Medica II"
/statusoff "Whispering Dawn"
/statusoff "Aspected Benefic"
/statusoff "Aspected Helios"
/e all Heal Over Time buffs cleared! <se.2>
/p I have removed all heal over time buffs. If this is a pre-pull please do not recast until combat has started. Thank you.
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08-20-2017, 08:34 AMValinisThis isn't the healers fault. This has been a game design flaw since day one and never fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LalaRu
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08-20-2017, 08:48 AMArchamgelAh, yeah. I thought it was just tanks not grabbing hate from a regen that is cast pre-pull or carried to the new one. Yep, and any healer worth their salt should apply their "tank butt" glue during pulls. If aggro happens to come to a healer, they should run to tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by LalaRu